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the smoke radio for the masses headline

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additional july 8 1947

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the army air forces has announced that a

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flying disc has been found and is now in

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the possession of the army

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if the game is rigged change the game

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game changer

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i occasionally think how quickly

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our differences worldwide

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if we were facing an alien threat from

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this is fade to black with your host

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jimmy church on the game changer radio

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network and kgra the global radio

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i need your help to get to the year

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you're listening to fate to black with

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jimmy josh on the game changer network

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good evening

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is spoke radio

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today's tuesday january 4th

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four days into the new year only 361

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we are live from a bunker somewhere in

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the middle of nowhere a total

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but it is beautiful in here it is it

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really is

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it truly is i would like to welcome

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everybody listening all around the world

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all across the united states

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hither and tether to and fro back and

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the game changer and on x networks

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i'm your host jimmy church what is

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cracking everybody how you doing

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yeah man

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look at that

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my on x network mouse pad

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got me an

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it's our first week

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in 2022

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standing out in front of the house today

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uh gardner was here i was outside

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talking to the gardener

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and and stuff and and the gardener who

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it was emotional it was real

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it just happened and i did it

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my carter's out there

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raking and he just kind of looks at me

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that's a strange caucasian

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so uh there you go all right

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i'm yours jimmy church tonight

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killing it this week here on fade to

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uh just an amazing week and uh tonight

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don schmidt is here

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he's back uh to talk about well um what

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i wanted to talk to him about and it was

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all came out at the same time of you

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the 2022 in the ufo question

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don uh we can talk about uh just about

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anything and we're gonna do that tonight

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and i really look forward to it it's one

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of the uh coolest uh people that i know

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um in that uh i've i've spent a lot of

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this man is pure i mean he is just it

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just as cool as the day is long

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so uh i'm really looking forward to it i

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missed don i haven't uh talked to him uh

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on the air but uh so don and i you know

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every night at that uh

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um the tradition here is at 6 30 we do a

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sound check with every guest for a

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okay jimmy it's just that that

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that's uh that's don i i can just sit

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and just talk with that man forever he's

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the absolute very best so tonight don

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schmidt is here and tomorrow night chad

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kalec he's back he's got a new film out

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it is called 74 minutes we will be

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discussing all of that uh tomorrow night

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where you can go and see the film

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linda moulton howe and uh discussing uh

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disclosure in 2022

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a huge week here on faded blackout all

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the weeks are huge but uh just uh a

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great week for me personally here on the

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show all right so which means

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no fader night this week

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no fader night i i think you guys will

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accept that we're trading in fader night

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for linda multan how and i don't think

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uh anybody's gonna complain about that

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i'm going to complain about uh one of

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the fader knots his name is ken ken

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priest specifically

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um should be illegal in in all 50 states

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of a breakfast sandwich that was

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glazed blueberry biscuit

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it wasn't sausage and egg on a blueberry

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glazed blueberry biscuit god it's just

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so many stages of wrong i i i just can't

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it was this tall

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it was absolutely glorious

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ken priest man you're the best ken you

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are nothing but there it is right there

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it and here it is

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oh man there are so many levels of wrong

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it is it's just right look at that oh

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man man man man

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can you you are the ken is trouble you

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need to follow ken

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can you can follow him at ken priest uh

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i believe that's his real name actually

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uh right there on twitter go hang out

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and uh you're gonna you're gonna see

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what i'm talking about right there

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he's the best he's very cool okay all

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right so that's our week here on fade to

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carolyn ford earlier today

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uh okay i'm just gonna let everybody

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know you can go and check this out

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somebody kaz or cassandra or somebody's

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gonna post this right now

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she has a skull

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right now called zen

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the beauty of this skull totally unique

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want her on the show i want to do a

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skull show so i think we're going to do

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stuff then i reached out but then then i

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go and see this skull

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i lost my mind

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i haven't had a reaction there it is

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um i'm gonna retweet this uh to

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everybody so you can see it

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has a new home

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here in the

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bunker that's all i'm gonna post so you

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guys can take a look

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and uh i'm retweeting this now i lost my

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mind

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oh no this is violet eden

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this isn't zen

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oh i thought it was zen at first because

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it's similar no no you need to post the

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picture of zen

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z-e-n

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sorry about that i i said th this is zen

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now i have to retweet this is not zen

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zen

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it's just incredible so anyway

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somebody's gonna this is zen

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okay i i had to post that somebody else

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posted maybe zen was taken down off of

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the site

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okay and normally she leaves them up and

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can i delete this tweet how do i delete

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can i delete my own tweet

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how do i do that wait a minute oh is it

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right here

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okay ah delete okay i just deleted

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where am i at

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where i'm at i did go go to einstein the

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crystalskull.com

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and look up

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zen and uh you can fall in love with you

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zen is incredible zen is incredible i

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show next week i want to do

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a show with caroline

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where we uh carolyn where we um

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discuss everything about crystal skulls

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the type of stones the type of uh

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crystals

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and and how to collect and and what is

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an einstein skull who is einstein

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because she has the baby einsteins what

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are those

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uh then she has uh the uh

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the regular skulls you know and and and

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what is going on what i i just want to

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do a skull crystal skull

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101

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and uh there's ken priest right there

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uh thank you for that drew drew banky

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just posted a picture of him and uh ken

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priest

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um yeah so we're gonna do that next week

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go to

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einstein the crystal skull.com and uh uh

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promo code jimmy we'll get you 10 off of

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your crystal skull order today she

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reached out and said thank you jimmy

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and uh thank you for the support

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and thank you to the fainter knots and

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so i'm just passing that on she really

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really appreciates uh this community of

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ours follow me on twitter jchurchradio

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the sandbox is hashtag f2b on twitter

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let's get to the breaking news a meteor

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that caused a loud boom heard in western

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pennsylvania on new year's day

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exploded in the atmosphere with the

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blast equivalent to 30 tons of tnt

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and weighed

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a half a ton

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nasa announced all of this yesterday the

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sounds were heard a few minutes before

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11 30 a.m eastern time on saturday

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had it not been cloudy the fireball

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would have been easily visible in the

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sky as it broke apart nasa said that the

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blast would have been about 100 times

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the brightness

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of the full moon

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absolutely incredible now the

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anadolu agency reports that a two inch

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marble statuette

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has been unearthed at central turkey's

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neolithic site called catalon warrior

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by a team of researchers from anadolu

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university the site dates back

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9 000 years

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and the 8500 year old carving

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looks like a reclining man

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on the back

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of an animal

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he's kicking back he's like this

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it's crazy

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8500 years old earlier today

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at 11 59 a.m eastern time one minute

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before noon

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the fifth and final layer of the james

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webb space telescope sunshield

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was fully tensioned marking the

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completion of the sun shield deployment

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remember

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the james webb space telescope is the

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world's largest most powerful and most

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complex science telescope

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ever built

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everything is working so far

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well okay it was announced today so i'm

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just going to share this with you

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canada

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specifically quebec

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quebec prime minister francois legals

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his administration is expected to

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announce a new requirement for proof of

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vaccination

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at liquor stores

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and

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at cannabis stores

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that's right all of this announced in

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the journal de montreal

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and minor details of the latest mandates

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such as whether to require the passport

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at entrances or the cash registers

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are still being ironed out

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the new vaccine requirement at liquor

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and cannabis stores will only apply

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to shoppers

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employees of those stores

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won't be forced to be vaccinated that

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doesn't make any sense and those

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employees can buy whatever they want

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and yes

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gotta have a vaccine passport to buy

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weed

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in canada

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that is nuts

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let's get this show cracking happy

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birthday to today ramstein's till

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lindemann

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today 59 years old dude is twisted great

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singer though guitar god john mclaughlin

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today 80 years old

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r e m's michael stipe today

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62. our dead guy's birthday today is

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sir isaac newton 1643-1727

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isaac was a mathematician he was a

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physicist he was an astronomer he's a

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theologian he was an alchemist he was an

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author widely recognized as one of the

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greatest mathematicians and physicists

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of all time

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he was a key figure in the philosophical

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revolution known as enlightenment

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his book the philosophy and naturalis

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principia mathematica

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first published in 1687

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established classical mechanics

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he formulated the laws of motion and

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gravity that formed the dominant

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scientific viewpoint until it was

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superseded by

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the theory of relativity

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isaac died in his sleep in london on

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march 20th 1727

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at the age of 84.

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on this day in history otd 1974

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president nixon

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refuses to hand over the tapes

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that's right

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he would resign from office in disgrace

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eight months later

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fader fact okay

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i have the best facts in the world i

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have the best i have the most

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unbelievable vetted facts

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and now i'm gonna leave you with this

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one

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fader fact

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in ancient egypt

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the word for cat

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was pronounced

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meow

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and that

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is your fader fact

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tonight on the showdown schmidt tomorrow

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night chad caleb

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wednesday night thursday night

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linda moulton howe no fader night this

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week

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and uh right now i'm gonna hit this

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river moon coffee

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goodness gracious yeah there it is

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is that that no that's not zen

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that's not zen i want to see zen

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steven that's a that's an amazing skull

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right there no i want to see zen can

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somebody post a picture of zen

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stephen that's an amazing skull i want

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to see a picture of zen

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is it

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is she no longer on the site did they

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let me see let me see that's not zen oh

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this one is zen

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who did this kaz

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that's zen

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unbelievable

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okay

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anyway zen gonna be in the bunker soon

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all right uh river moon coffee

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rivermoonwellness.com the links are over

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at jimmychurchradio.com just click right

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there throughout social media river moon

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wellness

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promo code f2b blend best coffee in the

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so

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i was watching a new documentary the

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other day

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and i actually heard an anthropologist

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say this and i quote

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darwin is making a comeback

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end quote

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some serious propaganda going on right

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there anyway because

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of this

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i shall not mention the name of said

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documentary not going to do it

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and it put me in a real darwin bashing

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mood so with that

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i'm going to share this little nugget

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with you are you ready

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okay

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our planet is about 4.5

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billion years old we know this

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life on earth began at the end of the

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period called the late heavy bombardment

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around 3.8 billion years ago the

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earliest known fossils on earth date

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from 3.5 billion years ago and there was

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also evidence that biological activity

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took place even earlier

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just at the end of the period

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of the late

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heavy

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bombardment

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so let that stew in for a moment all

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right

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because now for the good stuff

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all of this life

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at the start of it all

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included dna

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that's right

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now how is this possible

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if you include darwin

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and his theory of evolution in all of

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this well the short answer is

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there's no possibility for darwin to be

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part of the start of life here on earth

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there's nothing

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think about it

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remember

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dna

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after the heavy bombardment

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just showed up that's right immediately

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after the late heavy bombardment we've

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got dna we have the fossils to prove it

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there wasn't a billion years of

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evolution for everything to take hold no

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it was exactly the opposite we actually

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have fossils from when the late heavy

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bombs fell 3.8 billion years ago

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again let's just let that sink in

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really soak it up sop it up with a

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a blueberry glaze biscuit

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so what are we left with

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occam's razor

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shows itself in all its glory right here

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the simplest and only answer is this

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life on earth was brought here from

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there

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again simpler theories are preferable to

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more complex ones because they tend to

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be more testable

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before getting all nuts about those

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complex ideas about life forms

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just stay with the basic the easiest and

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the obvious one that dna was dropped off

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complete and ready to go that's it

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nothing more simple

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complete

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the explanations for how life got

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started on this planet sound

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great

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need a story

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most

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don't really think about it too much

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and i get it

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and the theories about this have been

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put together to pretty much just say

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that you know it's like hey we really

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don't know but the bottom line is that

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it was a miracle

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against the greatest odds out there in

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the universe things just well they just

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happened

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the most complex crazy and lucky chain

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of events happened all by chance

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one after another overnight and here we

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are

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that's the story

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or maybe

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just maybe

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trillions of space rocks covered with

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life crashed into us

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you know they got a little wet

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got some sunlight

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that is the only explanation that makes

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any sense at all

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it takes care of all the questions it

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really does and the best part

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it prevents darwin from making his

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comeback

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ever seriously

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so just to review

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our planet

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is about 4.5 billion years old

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life on earth

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began at the end of the period called

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the late heavy bombardment around 3.8

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billion years ago the earliest known

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fossils on earth date from 3.5 billion

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years ago and there is evidence that

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biological activity took place even

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earlier

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just at the end

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of the period called the late

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heavy bombardment

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earth was seeded with dna

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during the late heavy bombardment

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that's it

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any questions

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i didn't think so

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carry on

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i'm your host jimmy church this is fade

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to black this is our first week of shows

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for 2022 and tonight don schmidt joins

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us

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going to be talking about the ufo

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question in the new year

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tomorrow night chad kalec is back he's

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got a new film out it is called 74

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minutes we're going to talk about that

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tomorrow night

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and thursday night linda moulton howe

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in 2022.

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[Music]

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welcome back fade to black i'm not jimmy

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church tonight don schmidt

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tomorrow night chad caleb is here

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talking about his new film 74 minutes

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thursday night

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linda moulton how packed week is this is

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the way to kick off 2022. tonight don

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schmidt he's back and you know what

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if the conversation is going to be what

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it is everybody i i actually the ufo

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question

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in a 2022 i got a feeling that's going

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to be five minutes we're going to talk

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about everything else don

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00:37:15,270 --> 00:37:13,680
is the former co-director of the j allen

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heineck center for ufo studies in

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chicago where he served as director of

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special investigations for 10 years

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00:37:23,910 --> 00:37:22,000
prior to that time he was a special

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investigator for the late dr jay allen

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heineck and the art director for the

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international ufo reporter he graduated

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from matc with a degree in commercial

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art and graduated from concordia

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university with a degree in liberal arts

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you can tell

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because of his fine hairstyle

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he is the author of hundreds of articles

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about ufos as well as a co-author of six

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best-selling books about the crash at

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roswell the truth about the ufo crash at

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roswell witness roswell witness to

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roswell the revised edition inside the

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real area 51 great book i have it the

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secret history of wright patterson i

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have that book too and cover-up at

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roswell i have that one as well

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all of don's books are listed right

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there and the links to go and check them

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out or right in front of you i would

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like to welcome back to fade to black

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the one and only don schmidt don

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happy holidays man happy holidays same

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to you happy birthday

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i am doing great and uh now you're

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you're about uh 10 clicks from the

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canadian border

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so i i i'm picturing

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uh some snow you guys have a white

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christmas

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no we didn't uh actually it didn't snow

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until the day after

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and it's been bitter cold since we've

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been uh

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around zero

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nighttime

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and but uh extremely windy for the last

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month uh

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gale force winds almost on a daily basis

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tomorrow again winds at 45 miles an hour

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so typical wisconsin in january now um i

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want you to answer you're always honest

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but this quiet you need to answer me

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honestly

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is there anything colder

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and more painful

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on this planet

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than lake michigan winter air

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no no no no there's not there's just

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simply

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that's it

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uh and i can't imagine and i've only

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been there a number of times like the

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upper peninsula of michigan it's

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probably warmer it's probably warmer on

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the other side but as a result though

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getting all that moisture coming off of

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lake michigan just like buffalo new york

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they get all that snow off of lake erie

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whereas michigan gets all that snow off

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of lake michigan

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so

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we don't get a lot of snow off of the

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mississippi

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so

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we get those panhandle hooks that come

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off of california swoop down through the

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southwest and then drop all that golf

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moisture and by the time they come up

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through illinois and that combination of

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cold canadian air and we'll get a foot

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of snow it i

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you know i grew up as you know right

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there on lake michigan and

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i

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of stuff

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i i don't miss the lake michigan winter

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wind

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oh

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no no and as i as i first mentioned the

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fact that

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we're lucky

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when the winds calm down to 20 miles an

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hour here

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and when i think of just where new

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mexico is practic practically my second

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home

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and thank god we don't have the barren

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dust

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the desert

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that

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the southwest would provide

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and one can only imagine as far as when

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the midwest had had the the great dust

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bowl

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with that

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level of prevailing wind

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that we would just have chronic winds uh

826
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dust storms here

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00:41:17,270 --> 00:41:15,520
so thankfully everything's anchored down

828
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by all the greenery

829
00:41:22,230 --> 00:41:18,839
and this time of year all the ice and

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00:41:25,190 --> 00:41:22,240
snow i uh i i love that part of the

831
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country man uh best people and uh it's

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where i was raised and and i just miss

833
00:41:31,190 --> 00:41:29,599
it i do i miss it all the time and you

834
00:41:32,870 --> 00:41:31,200
know there's another part i want to get

835
00:41:35,750 --> 00:41:32,880
straight into uh

836
00:41:38,630 --> 00:41:35,760
uh our e.t brothers and sisters but

837
00:41:41,349 --> 00:41:38,640
there's but there's a this uh very

838
00:41:44,630 --> 00:41:41,359
strange dichotomy though when it comes

839
00:41:48,230 --> 00:41:44,640
to wisconsin and chicago

840
00:41:49,589 --> 00:41:48,240
of illinois which is freezing cold in

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00:41:52,550 --> 00:41:49,599
the winter

842
00:41:54,870 --> 00:41:52,560
humid and hot in the summer

843
00:41:57,750 --> 00:41:54,880
it doesn't make any sense it's like it's

844
00:42:00,870 --> 00:41:57,760
the it's the worst of both

845
00:42:03,670 --> 00:42:00,880
but it's it's still not as bad as st

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louis or cleveland

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00:42:07,510 --> 00:42:05,760
as far as in that regard as far as heat

848
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and humidity and

849
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because just as lake michigan and those

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winds during the winter

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00:42:20,230 --> 00:42:14,560
the

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00:42:22,069 --> 00:42:20,240
it becomes a natural air conditioning

853
00:42:24,870 --> 00:42:22,079
as far as any time you have a wind off

854
00:42:27,750 --> 00:42:24,880
the east coming off of lake michigan so

855
00:42:29,750 --> 00:42:27,760
typically here out in the burbs where

856
00:42:33,349 --> 00:42:29,760
we'll be 10 degrees warmer than

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00:42:35,030 --> 00:42:33,359
milwaukee will be for example because

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00:42:37,589 --> 00:42:35,040
you're reading straight from a tourist

859
00:42:42,630 --> 00:42:37,599
brochure wisconsin

860
00:42:48,390 --> 00:42:45,109
but but but but fortunately i live in an

861
00:42:51,349 --> 00:42:48,400
area and you mentioned the dells yes and

862
00:42:54,550 --> 00:42:51,359
the dowels are they're this wonderful

863
00:42:57,030 --> 00:42:54,560
shelf area that when the ice age receded

864
00:42:58,790 --> 00:42:57,040
and it carved out all those wonderful

865
00:43:02,309 --> 00:42:58,800
bluffs and those under

866
00:43:03,270 --> 00:43:02,319
water caverns and all those beautiful

867
00:43:04,470 --> 00:43:03,280
lakes

868
00:43:06,470 --> 00:43:04,480
and

869
00:43:09,670 --> 00:43:06,480
whereas people generally think of the

870
00:43:10,950 --> 00:43:09,680
midwest they think very flat open as far

871
00:43:13,910 --> 00:43:10,960
as farmland

872
00:43:16,230 --> 00:43:13,920
uh we have our own bavarian alps here we

873
00:43:18,550 --> 00:43:16,240
have a basilica up on the highest point

874
00:43:21,109 --> 00:43:18,560
overlooking the entire valley we have

875
00:43:23,990 --> 00:43:21,119
four lakes two golf courses two ski

876
00:43:27,190 --> 00:43:24,000
hills when i returned home and i drove

877
00:43:29,510 --> 00:43:27,200
by the ski hill on the way as i pass by

878
00:43:31,990 --> 00:43:29,520
the basilica and to see all those young

879
00:43:33,910 --> 00:43:32,000
people out you know having just a grand

880
00:43:36,309 --> 00:43:33,920
time in the cold

881
00:43:37,829 --> 00:43:36,319
and it's where we don't allow the

882
00:43:41,109 --> 00:43:37,839
weather to dictate

883
00:43:42,470 --> 00:43:41,119
our every action i know in california

884
00:43:45,030 --> 00:43:42,480
you don't even give weather a second

885
00:43:47,829 --> 00:43:45,040
thought because it's not a factor on

886
00:43:50,710 --> 00:43:47,839
most days but here the weather as you

887
00:43:53,589 --> 00:43:50,720
remember growing up the weather sets the

888
00:43:56,630 --> 00:43:53,599
pace every day yeah it does it does and

889
00:43:58,870 --> 00:43:56,640
and growing up uh

890
00:44:01,109 --> 00:43:58,880
this is this is the truth

891
00:44:03,910 --> 00:44:01,119
when my parents would say

892
00:44:06,870 --> 00:44:03,920
this weekend we're going to the dells

893
00:44:08,630 --> 00:44:06,880
we would lose our minds man

894
00:44:12,230 --> 00:44:08,640
we would lose our mind

895
00:44:14,550 --> 00:44:12,240
the the wisconsin dells and uh

896
00:44:15,589 --> 00:44:14,560
unique to the entire country unique to

897
00:44:18,870 --> 00:44:15,599
the world

898
00:44:19,990 --> 00:44:18,880
when you're pulling up uh and especially

899
00:44:21,829 --> 00:44:20,000
as a kid

900
00:44:24,309 --> 00:44:21,839
and you start to see the hills and the

901
00:44:26,470 --> 00:44:24,319
bluffs and and the woods and the forest

902
00:44:28,630 --> 00:44:26,480
around it and knowing the lakes that are

903
00:44:30,150 --> 00:44:28,640
there and and the people and the the

904
00:44:31,910 --> 00:44:30,160
campgrounds

905
00:44:34,069 --> 00:44:31,920
uh when i was growing up there was an

906
00:44:38,069 --> 00:44:34,079
amusement park there too as well is that

907
00:44:40,630 --> 00:44:38,079
still there yes it is and um i remember

908
00:44:42,790 --> 00:44:40,640
getting kicked out of it as we were

909
00:44:45,349 --> 00:44:42,800
uh playing air hockey

910
00:44:48,870 --> 00:44:45,359
on one occasion and we became a little

911
00:44:51,510 --> 00:44:48,880
overly zealous in our attempts to win uh

912
00:44:53,589 --> 00:44:51,520
beat one another and uh the the puck was

913
00:44:55,750 --> 00:44:53,599
hitting people in back of the head who

914
00:44:57,109 --> 00:44:55,760
weren't even involved and uh we were

915
00:45:00,230 --> 00:44:57,119
asked to leave

916
00:45:02,550 --> 00:45:00,240
so uh don schmidt kicked out of a family

917
00:45:03,220 --> 00:45:02,560
establishment family establishment yeah

918
00:45:05,910 --> 00:45:03,230
the rabble

919
00:45:09,349 --> 00:45:05,920
[Music]

920
00:45:12,150 --> 00:45:09,359
well you know uh uh seriously oh by the

921
00:45:16,550 --> 00:45:12,160
way i'm gonna send this to you

922
00:45:19,430 --> 00:45:16,560
i found uh the video

923
00:45:21,829 --> 00:45:19,440
of you and i that was shot with a drone

924
00:45:24,390 --> 00:45:21,839
uh we don't need to get into the uh the

925
00:45:26,150 --> 00:45:24,400
details of it but i found the video

926
00:45:28,390 --> 00:45:26,160
and uh i need to send it to you but

927
00:45:31,510 --> 00:45:28,400
because it's pretty incredible it was

928
00:45:34,230 --> 00:45:31,520
because uh it was a new state-of-the-art

929
00:45:37,109 --> 00:45:34,240
drone at that time it was both amazed

930
00:45:40,309 --> 00:45:37,119
with the gyro that it was not only

931
00:45:42,309 --> 00:45:40,319
picture perfect but clear but i mean no

932
00:45:44,829 --> 00:45:42,319
there's no movement whatsoever we

933
00:45:47,190 --> 00:45:44,839
couldn't see yeah we couldn't see the

934
00:45:49,910 --> 00:45:47,200
drone right that was shooting us in high

935
00:45:51,589 --> 00:45:49,920
def um that that that was incredible

936
00:45:53,270 --> 00:45:51,599
anyway so i have that drone video i'm

937
00:45:54,309 --> 00:45:53,280
going to wait i'm going to send it to

938
00:45:57,190 --> 00:45:54,319
you

939
00:46:00,630 --> 00:45:57,200
now talking about being a rebel um have

940
00:46:03,349 --> 00:46:00,640
you always had that rebel gene you know

941
00:46:07,109 --> 00:46:03,359
it and and going back to

942
00:46:08,470 --> 00:46:07,119
uh you know my book collection and and

943
00:46:11,910 --> 00:46:08,480
all of your

944
00:46:14,630 --> 00:46:11,920
uh books on roswell going back

945
00:46:17,190 --> 00:46:14,640
that that's a rebel position to be in

946
00:46:18,870 --> 00:46:17,200
and and you were there did you always

947
00:46:20,710 --> 00:46:18,880
have that rebel gene

948
00:46:23,270 --> 00:46:20,720
well can you imagine growing up in a

949
00:46:26,150 --> 00:46:23,280
household of six boys

950
00:46:28,550 --> 00:46:26,160
by five brothers no sisters

951
00:46:30,230 --> 00:46:28,560
and my dad was an army drill sergeant he

952
00:46:31,990 --> 00:46:30,240
was part of the invasion fleet on their

953
00:46:32,870 --> 00:46:32,000
way to japan

954
00:46:35,910 --> 00:46:32,880
when

955
00:46:37,990 --> 00:46:35,920
as my dad as the family we were raised

956
00:46:39,750 --> 00:46:38,000
roman catholic and a priest took him

957
00:46:41,990 --> 00:46:39,760
aside on the ship

958
00:46:44,950 --> 00:46:42,000
and told him not to worry that the war

959
00:46:46,069 --> 00:46:44,960
was going to end that we had a new super

960
00:46:48,550 --> 00:46:46,079
weapon

961
00:46:49,589 --> 00:46:48,560
that was going to force japan to

962
00:46:51,510 --> 00:46:49,599
surrender

963
00:46:52,470 --> 00:46:51,520
how did he know well

964
00:46:54,470 --> 00:46:52,480
and

965
00:46:57,510 --> 00:46:54,480
i i grew up

966
00:46:58,470 --> 00:46:57,520
with um one of vince lombardi's second

967
00:46:59,829 --> 00:46:58,480
string

968
00:47:01,829 --> 00:46:59,839
uh linemen

969
00:47:04,630 --> 00:47:01,839
the late kenny kronz

970
00:47:07,510 --> 00:47:04,640
and he was my first baseball trainer

971
00:47:10,230 --> 00:47:07,520
and so i got to meet all of those

972
00:47:11,030 --> 00:47:10,240
legendary football players bart starr

973
00:47:19,670 --> 00:47:11,040
and

974
00:47:23,750 --> 00:47:19,680
fuzzy thurston so between my dad as a

975
00:47:24,390 --> 00:47:23,760
drill sergeant and lombardi i have a lot

976
00:47:26,870 --> 00:47:24,400
of

977
00:47:28,790 --> 00:47:26,880
lombardi drilled into me

978
00:47:33,109 --> 00:47:28,800
i don't like to lose

979
00:47:34,790 --> 00:47:33,119
and as a result i always have plan b

980
00:47:37,109 --> 00:47:34,800
and c and d

981
00:47:39,349 --> 00:47:37,119
if the first effort doesn't work i don't

982
00:47:41,589 --> 00:47:39,359
quit and i think

983
00:47:44,150 --> 00:47:41,599
it it shows

984
00:47:46,309 --> 00:47:44,160
in the effort with roswell

985
00:47:48,630 --> 00:47:46,319
in so much as even when witnesses even

986
00:47:49,910 --> 00:47:48,640
potential witnesses would tell us i have

987
00:47:52,069 --> 00:47:49,920
nothing to say

988
00:47:53,510 --> 00:47:52,079
or they demonstrated a high degree of

989
00:47:55,750 --> 00:47:53,520
reluctance

990
00:47:58,630 --> 00:47:55,760
and others would have walked away i

991
00:48:01,349 --> 00:47:58,640
never did i'd be knocking on your door a

992
00:48:03,270 --> 00:48:01,359
week later i'd be calling you up until

993
00:48:05,670 --> 00:48:03,280
you finally you know would give me a

994
00:48:07,430 --> 00:48:05,680
legitimate reason why you couldn't talk

995
00:48:09,670 --> 00:48:07,440
about a weather balloon

996
00:48:12,390 --> 00:48:09,680
as the explanation still stands

997
00:48:13,589 --> 00:48:12,400
and so i there's a level of persistency

998
00:48:16,710 --> 00:48:13,599
in me

999
00:48:19,030 --> 00:48:16,720
that uh and i fully attribute to my dad

1000
00:48:21,109 --> 00:48:19,040
and the others around me at that time

1001
00:48:23,910 --> 00:48:21,119
and uh

1002
00:48:25,829 --> 00:48:23,920
i'm a local administrator

1003
00:48:28,390 --> 00:48:25,839
as far as within our village community

1004
00:48:30,470 --> 00:48:28,400
as far as politically and the milwaukee

1005
00:48:33,670 --> 00:48:30,480
journal even referred to me

1006
00:48:35,670 --> 00:48:33,680
as a renegade on occasion

1007
00:48:36,549 --> 00:48:35,680
so and it was because of my political

1008
00:48:39,990 --> 00:48:36,559
work

1009
00:48:42,549 --> 00:48:40,000
so yes i guess it's just in my nature

1010
00:48:43,910 --> 00:48:42,559
i i don't like to lose and especially

1011
00:48:46,390 --> 00:48:43,920
when i know

1012
00:48:48,230 --> 00:48:46,400
i'm sitting on in regards to this

1013
00:48:49,270 --> 00:48:48,240
subject the biggest story of the

1014
00:48:51,589 --> 00:48:49,280
millennium

1015
00:48:54,710 --> 00:48:51,599
how can anybody just turn uh you know a

1016
00:48:57,349 --> 00:48:54,720
blind eye a deaf ear to what has to

1017
00:48:58,630 --> 00:48:57,359
fascinate everybody anybody who's paying

1018
00:49:00,630 --> 00:48:58,640
attention

1019
00:49:03,510 --> 00:49:00,640
i mean it's just

1020
00:49:06,230 --> 00:49:03,520
beyond our comprehension when you

1021
00:49:08,630 --> 00:49:06,240
consider the effort that the government

1022
00:49:10,549 --> 00:49:08,640
has made over the past 75 years to

1023
00:49:13,430 --> 00:49:10,559
suppress all this to just sweep out of

1024
00:49:15,270 --> 00:49:13,440
the carpet and treat it as such as

1025
00:49:16,950 --> 00:49:15,280
heineken would say the silly season that

1026
00:49:19,670 --> 00:49:16,960
it will come and go and we'll move on to

1027
00:49:21,910 --> 00:49:19,680
the next uh you know conspiracy kooks

1028
00:49:25,109 --> 00:49:21,920
that'll you know elevate something else

1029
00:49:26,710 --> 00:49:25,119
into the media but here we are after all

1030
00:49:28,470 --> 00:49:26,720
these years

1031
00:49:30,470 --> 00:49:28,480
and i think the skeptics more

1032
00:49:31,750 --> 00:49:30,480
specifically the debunkers are becoming

1033
00:49:34,230 --> 00:49:31,760
nervous

1034
00:49:37,109 --> 00:49:34,240
that as i've often said

1035
00:49:39,990 --> 00:49:37,119
if you jimmy if i if myself and our

1036
00:49:42,470 --> 00:49:40,000
colleagues if we're wrong about all this

1037
00:49:45,430 --> 00:49:42,480
it doesn't change anything

1038
00:49:47,190 --> 00:49:45,440
but if those debunkers are wrong it

1039
00:49:48,950 --> 00:49:47,200
changes everything how does that make

1040
00:49:51,910 --> 00:49:48,960
that's what they're concerned about sure

1041
00:49:54,150 --> 00:49:51,920
and and how does that and you can you

1042
00:49:56,150 --> 00:49:54,160
can be honest here um

1043
00:49:58,390 --> 00:49:56,160
how does that make you feel after you

1044
00:50:00,150 --> 00:49:58,400
know fighting the good fight for

1045
00:50:02,150 --> 00:50:00,160
you know you you're not that old but i'm

1046
00:50:04,150 --> 00:50:02,160
going to say 50 years

1047
00:50:06,390 --> 00:50:04,160
and and and that's nuts to me it's

1048
00:50:10,790 --> 00:50:06,400
probably longer than that

1049
00:50:15,349 --> 00:50:10,800
um to finally be in a position uh to to

1050
00:50:17,190 --> 00:50:15,359
feel like we do today in 2022.

1051
00:50:19,030 --> 00:50:17,200
do you get some satisfaction out of that

1052
00:50:21,510 --> 00:50:19,040
do you get to you know

1053
00:50:23,349 --> 00:50:21,520
you know thumb your thumb your nose at

1054
00:50:24,950 --> 00:50:23,359
those debunkers you know that have come

1055
00:50:26,870 --> 00:50:24,960
at you over the years

1056
00:50:30,069 --> 00:50:26,880
no because i don't feel that i i ever

1057
00:50:30,950 --> 00:50:30,079
gave them much relevance to begin with i

1058
00:50:34,150 --> 00:50:30,960
i

1059
00:50:35,829 --> 00:50:34,160
when

1060
00:50:37,990 --> 00:50:35,839
it was highly touted

1061
00:50:41,109 --> 00:50:38,000
it was going to be the like the battle

1062
00:50:43,910 --> 00:50:41,119
royal of the century it was my

1063
00:50:46,309 --> 00:50:43,920
scientific director jaylen heineck

1064
00:50:47,750 --> 00:50:46,319
and our chief investigator at that time

1065
00:50:50,950 --> 00:50:47,760
alan hendry

1066
00:50:52,829 --> 00:50:50,960
and dr bruce mcabee

1067
00:50:56,150 --> 00:50:52,839
and the

1068
00:50:58,710 --> 00:50:56,160
the debate at the smithsonian washington

1069
00:51:00,630 --> 00:50:58,720
against the late philip j class

1070
00:51:04,630 --> 00:51:00,640
and james oberg

1071
00:51:06,470 --> 00:51:04,640
nasa consultants and robert schafer

1072
00:51:07,990 --> 00:51:06,480
and i

1073
00:51:09,270 --> 00:51:08,000
as well as another colleague richard

1074
00:51:12,710 --> 00:51:09,280
hayden and i know there were a few

1075
00:51:15,190 --> 00:51:12,720
others we would rehearse with heinek

1076
00:51:18,150 --> 00:51:15,200
in other words we staged as far as uh

1077
00:51:20,790 --> 00:51:18,160
the debate and we would be at the

1078
00:51:22,470 --> 00:51:20,800
heineck residence down on ridge avenue

1079
00:51:25,510 --> 00:51:22,480
in evanston illinois

1080
00:51:28,549 --> 00:51:25,520
right down from the evanston hospital

1081
00:51:31,109 --> 00:51:28,559
and we would get him we would prep him

1082
00:51:32,150 --> 00:51:31,119
it was like we were we had him in the

1083
00:51:34,069 --> 00:51:32,160
gym

1084
00:51:36,630 --> 00:51:34,079
i wasn't concerned about maccabee i

1085
00:51:38,870 --> 00:51:36,640
wasn't concerned about hendry but it was

1086
00:51:42,150 --> 00:51:38,880
alan it was dr heineck

1087
00:51:45,270 --> 00:51:42,160
that had to come out of the shining

1088
00:51:47,910 --> 00:51:45,280
like uh never before because he had just

1089
00:51:48,829 --> 00:51:47,920
participated in a debate with the late

1090
00:51:52,950 --> 00:51:48,839
carl

1091
00:51:55,589 --> 00:51:52,960
sagan and it was it was god-awful

1092
00:51:57,750 --> 00:51:55,599
heineken came out at that debates and it

1093
00:51:59,910 --> 00:51:57,760
was like don knotts

1094
00:52:02,710 --> 00:51:59,920
i mean he stood there at the microphone

1095
00:52:05,589 --> 00:52:02,720
with his notes and he shook and you

1096
00:52:08,549 --> 00:52:05,599
could hear the people the paper rattling

1097
00:52:11,109 --> 00:52:08,559
and he was hemming and hauling and

1098
00:52:13,430 --> 00:52:11,119
when he finished his opening remarks and

1099
00:52:14,710 --> 00:52:13,440
then sagan comes out as a polished

1100
00:52:17,349 --> 00:52:14,720
entertainer

1101
00:52:19,270 --> 00:52:17,359
and not a single note card and he takes

1102
00:52:22,390 --> 00:52:19,280
the microphone and he steps in front of

1103
00:52:24,630 --> 00:52:22,400
the podium and leans down on it and well

1104
00:52:26,069 --> 00:52:24,640
now let me tell you what's really going

1105
00:52:26,950 --> 00:52:26,079
on

1106
00:52:29,829 --> 00:52:26,960
and

1107
00:52:32,710 --> 00:52:29,839
we couldn't let that happen again

1108
00:52:34,630 --> 00:52:32,720
and so one of the things that

1109
00:52:37,190 --> 00:52:34,640
we had coached heineck

1110
00:52:38,150 --> 00:52:37,200
as far as in this debate

1111
00:52:40,150 --> 00:52:38,160
that

1112
00:52:43,750 --> 00:52:40,160
whenever something

1113
00:52:46,390 --> 00:52:43,760
really didn't matter or or or caused as

1114
00:52:48,630 --> 00:52:46,400
far as any relevance

1115
00:52:51,109 --> 00:52:48,640
towards the subject matter he was just

1116
00:52:52,790 --> 00:52:51,119
going to respond that's irrelevant

1117
00:52:54,870 --> 00:52:52,800
that's irrelevant

1118
00:52:57,109 --> 00:52:54,880
i don't care what point you're making

1119
00:52:59,990 --> 00:52:57,119
that's your opinion let's deal with the

1120
00:53:01,990 --> 00:53:00,000
statistical analysis of this phenomenon

1121
00:53:04,470 --> 00:53:02,000
let's deal as far as with the cases that

1122
00:53:06,069 --> 00:53:04,480
blue book examined when i served as the

1123
00:53:08,309 --> 00:53:06,079
scientific consultant

1124
00:53:10,870 --> 00:53:08,319
i mean you can theorize all you want you

1125
00:53:13,030 --> 00:53:10,880
have preconceived positions as to what

1126
00:53:15,589 --> 00:53:13,040
ufos are

1127
00:53:19,030 --> 00:53:15,599
but i walked the walk i was there you

1128
00:53:20,870 --> 00:53:19,040
were not so what you're saying matters

1129
00:53:23,270 --> 00:53:20,880
matters not to me

1130
00:53:25,910 --> 00:53:23,280
and so that jimmy in all honesty i think

1131
00:53:28,549 --> 00:53:25,920
i i i carry that and i have all these

1132
00:53:30,390 --> 00:53:28,559
years i've debated all these people and

1133
00:53:32,230 --> 00:53:30,400
the point is

1134
00:53:34,069 --> 00:53:32,240
i make my case

1135
00:53:35,670 --> 00:53:34,079
and again all you're gonna voice is a

1136
00:53:37,829 --> 00:53:35,680
reaction

1137
00:53:39,990 --> 00:53:37,839
you you cannot provide anything that

1138
00:53:43,190 --> 00:53:40,000
you've ever done to solve the case one

1139
00:53:44,549 --> 00:53:43,200
way or the other and as a result i'm

1140
00:53:46,309 --> 00:53:44,559
sorry why are we in the same ring

1141
00:53:48,230 --> 00:53:46,319
together right why are we in the same

1142
00:53:51,670 --> 00:53:48,240
room debating this because you're just

1143
00:53:54,390 --> 00:53:51,680
voicing position opinions nothing more

1144
00:53:56,230 --> 00:53:54,400
there there's uh a very unique and you

1145
00:53:58,150 --> 00:53:56,240
just touched upon this there's a very

1146
00:54:01,990 --> 00:53:58,160
unique position here

1147
00:54:04,950 --> 00:54:02,000
that uh is not taken uh enough

1148
00:54:07,030 --> 00:54:04,960
when a debunker says especially like a

1149
00:54:09,510 --> 00:54:07,040
phillip class says

1150
00:54:11,349 --> 00:54:09,520
prove to me that ufos are real

1151
00:54:14,549 --> 00:54:11,359
you know what the answer to that is

1152
00:54:17,990 --> 00:54:14,559
prove to me they are not precisely jimmy

1153
00:54:20,390 --> 00:54:18,000
excellent excellent exactly exactly and

1154
00:54:23,109 --> 00:54:20,400
that is finally being stated and i'm

1155
00:54:27,030 --> 00:54:23,119
glad that you are making that public as

1156
00:54:29,109 --> 00:54:27,040
far as a a position known because that's

1157
00:54:31,030 --> 00:54:29,119
the mistake that was made and has been

1158
00:54:32,790 --> 00:54:31,040
made all these years

1159
00:54:35,190 --> 00:54:32,800
you're demanding that i prove to you

1160
00:54:37,589 --> 00:54:35,200
they exist you prove to me they don't

1161
00:54:40,390 --> 00:54:37,599
exist exactly you prove to me that every

1162
00:54:42,870 --> 00:54:40,400
one of these case reports involved a

1163
00:54:45,670 --> 00:54:42,880
conventional explanation you prove to me

1164
00:54:47,270 --> 00:54:45,680
that every pilot every sac officer

1165
00:54:49,670 --> 00:54:47,280
everyone who's ever had a close

1166
00:54:52,390 --> 00:54:49,680
encounter you prove to me they're a liar

1167
00:54:53,750 --> 00:54:52,400
right a tip a it that's it

1168
00:54:54,549 --> 00:54:53,760
and and

1169
00:54:56,870 --> 00:54:54,559
the

1170
00:54:58,549 --> 00:54:56,880
um uh it's such a classical thing to say

1171
00:54:59,349 --> 00:54:58,559
right the onus should be put back on

1172
00:55:01,109 --> 00:54:59,359
them

1173
00:55:04,710 --> 00:55:01,119
and and and

1174
00:55:07,190 --> 00:55:04,720
there is a timid factor an intimidation

1175
00:55:10,309 --> 00:55:07,200
of a timid factor that happens

1176
00:55:12,549 --> 00:55:10,319
uh with the ufo community because we're

1177
00:55:14,710 --> 00:55:12,559
too used to being beat down

1178
00:55:16,630 --> 00:55:14,720
and teased and ridiculed you know and

1179
00:55:18,870 --> 00:55:16,640
we're always in this defensive posture

1180
00:55:20,630 --> 00:55:18,880
you know what flip it over neil degrasse

1181
00:55:23,349 --> 00:55:20,640
tyson who wants to say you know what

1182
00:55:25,270 --> 00:55:23,359
there's just no proof of uh

1183
00:55:27,750 --> 00:55:25,280
life in the universe you know what prove

1184
00:55:30,630 --> 00:55:27,760
to me there's not have you been to

1185
00:55:32,470 --> 00:55:30,640
another planet neil

1186
00:55:34,789 --> 00:55:32,480
i mean he's never interviewed he's never

1187
00:55:38,230 --> 00:55:34,799
conducted an investigation and the point

1188
00:55:39,430 --> 00:55:38,240
being i if i were neil the grass tyson

1189
00:55:42,230 --> 00:55:39,440
i'd be more concerned that the

1190
00:55:44,069 --> 00:55:42,240
government hasn't confided to you of all

1191
00:55:45,430 --> 00:55:44,079
people and told you what they know or

1192
00:55:47,109 --> 00:55:45,440
what they don't know

1193
00:55:49,829 --> 00:55:47,119
maybe that's the crawl he's got up his

1194
00:55:51,750 --> 00:55:49,839
butt the fact that they don't tell him

1195
00:55:53,910 --> 00:55:51,760
the god honest truth

1196
00:55:57,109 --> 00:55:53,920
yeah i have a i have issues with that

1197
00:55:59,829 --> 00:55:57,119
and and the other the other flip side

1198
00:56:02,390 --> 00:55:59,839
again this goes to philip and and

1199
00:56:04,390 --> 00:56:02,400
and the debunkers and those guys that

1200
00:56:07,190 --> 00:56:04,400
used to go on larry king

1201
00:56:09,270 --> 00:56:07,200
or just frustrate me to death

1202
00:56:10,870 --> 00:56:09,280
science guy right yeah yeah yeah bill

1203
00:56:13,829 --> 00:56:10,880
nye could even get the right weather

1204
00:56:19,829 --> 00:56:13,839
balloon you know regarding roswell so

1205
00:56:24,549 --> 00:56:22,069
i would never be in a debate with any of

1206
00:56:27,510 --> 00:56:24,559
these guys uh because of the way that i

1207
00:56:30,950 --> 00:56:27,520
would handle myself and it's this

1208
00:56:32,309 --> 00:56:30,960
the chemistry on this planet

1209
00:56:33,510 --> 00:56:32,319
is the same

1210
00:56:35,990 --> 00:56:33,520
chemistry

1211
00:56:37,670 --> 00:56:36,000
at the start of the big bang

1212
00:56:39,670 --> 00:56:37,680
that chemistry

1213
00:56:42,789 --> 00:56:39,680
is universal

1214
00:56:47,349 --> 00:56:42,799
it's everyone we're not unique to

1215
00:56:50,870 --> 00:56:49,109
we're the only planet with carbon and

1216
00:56:53,430 --> 00:56:50,880
oxygen and nitrogen

1217
00:56:56,069 --> 00:56:53,440
and uh and helium

1218
00:56:59,990 --> 00:56:56,079
that is here on planet earth is extent

1219
00:57:01,829 --> 00:57:00,000
throughout the entire everywhere

1220
00:57:04,390 --> 00:57:01,839
and that's the end of the story you

1221
00:57:06,789 --> 00:57:04,400
can't stop life here for sure we've

1222
00:57:09,589 --> 00:57:06,799
tried to stop it many times we can't do

1223
00:57:12,870 --> 00:57:09,599
it and uh it's the same thing throughout

1224
00:57:14,390 --> 00:57:12,880
the universe you can't stop life

1225
00:57:15,990 --> 00:57:14,400
it's interesting to mention that because

1226
00:57:18,549 --> 00:57:16,000
i i know the bb

1227
00:57:19,589 --> 00:57:18,559
c science focus magazine just this last

1228
00:57:21,670 --> 00:57:19,599
year

1229
00:57:23,910 --> 00:57:21,680
they did a whole thing as far as an

1230
00:57:26,470 --> 00:57:23,920
evolutionary pathology

1231
00:57:29,109 --> 00:57:26,480
and it was dr simon conway

1232
00:57:30,789 --> 00:57:29,119
you know where he actually stated that

1233
00:57:33,190 --> 00:57:30,799
science can say

1234
00:57:36,630 --> 00:57:33,200
with reasonable confidence

1235
00:57:39,670 --> 00:57:36,640
that human life evolution

1236
00:57:41,510 --> 00:57:39,680
is also extent throughout the universe

1237
00:57:43,910 --> 00:57:41,520
and i used to always ask dr michael

1238
00:57:47,190 --> 00:57:43,920
swords who was also on the board of

1239
00:57:50,230 --> 00:57:47,200
directors at uh kufos in chicago

1240
00:57:51,430 --> 00:57:50,240
that should we expect aliens to be

1241
00:57:53,030 --> 00:57:51,440
that different

1242
00:57:56,710 --> 00:57:53,040
should we expect you know three-eyed

1243
00:57:58,710 --> 00:57:56,720
monsters and and things that uh as often

1244
00:58:00,870 --> 00:57:58,720
dramatized in the movies anyone

1245
00:58:02,630 --> 00:58:00,880
absolutely not because when you consider

1246
00:58:04,630 --> 00:58:02,640
here on planet earth for example where

1247
00:58:06,789 --> 00:58:04,640
you're talking about the highest peaks

1248
00:58:09,670 --> 00:58:06,799
of mountains or down to the very depths

1249
00:58:12,230 --> 00:58:09,680
of the oceans almost every condition

1250
00:58:14,549 --> 00:58:12,240
that could exist on another planet also

1251
00:58:16,710 --> 00:58:14,559
exists here on earth

1252
00:58:19,430 --> 00:58:16,720
and yet all life forms

1253
00:58:21,349 --> 00:58:19,440
are connected we all bleed we all you

1254
00:58:24,309 --> 00:58:21,359
know two eyes two you know that type of

1255
00:58:26,069 --> 00:58:24,319
thing yes and so and so and

1256
00:58:29,990 --> 00:58:26,079
under highly different

1257
00:58:32,710 --> 00:58:30,000
living conditions but nonetheless

1258
00:58:34,870 --> 00:58:32,720
whether one accepts evolution or not

1259
00:58:36,390 --> 00:58:34,880
that we shouldn't expect life forms

1260
00:58:38,549 --> 00:58:36,400
elsewhere to be

1261
00:58:41,270 --> 00:58:38,559
any more different than we are

1262
00:58:42,950 --> 00:58:41,280
from even race to race gender to gender

1263
00:58:44,470 --> 00:58:42,960
now uh we've got two minutes before the

1264
00:58:46,470 --> 00:58:44,480
break i'm going to ask you the strangest

1265
00:58:49,109 --> 00:58:46,480
question you've ever been asked

1266
00:58:50,870 --> 00:58:49,119
um in saying that

1267
00:58:53,190 --> 00:58:50,880
do you think

1268
00:58:56,069 --> 00:58:53,200
it's it's a possibility

1269
00:58:58,470 --> 00:58:56,079
that there are aliens among us right now

1270
00:59:01,270 --> 00:58:58,480
walking the streets and

1271
00:59:02,870 --> 00:59:01,280
and and they're here with us

1272
00:59:05,190 --> 00:59:02,880
i think

1273
00:59:06,950 --> 00:59:05,200
and one would always suggest that well

1274
00:59:08,870 --> 00:59:06,960
you know the abduction the missing time

1275
00:59:11,030 --> 00:59:08,880
experience says in the very notion of a

1276
00:59:12,789 --> 00:59:11,040
hybrid race that they're they're here to

1277
00:59:15,510 --> 00:59:12,799
interbreed and create you know this

1278
00:59:18,069 --> 00:59:15,520
infiltration uh dr david jacobs uh his

1279
00:59:20,309 --> 00:59:18,079
book the threat the idea that they have

1280
00:59:23,190 --> 00:59:20,319
now infiltrated our highest levels of

1281
00:59:25,430 --> 00:59:23,200
government and education and corporation

1282
00:59:28,230 --> 00:59:25,440
that type of thing but lest we forget

1283
00:59:31,430 --> 00:59:28,240
that even going back to the 50s

1284
00:59:33,030 --> 00:59:31,440
and even the man in black situation and

1285
00:59:35,430 --> 00:59:33,040
there are documents that demonstrate

1286
00:59:37,349 --> 00:59:35,440
that even the air force were after these

1287
00:59:39,589 --> 00:59:37,359
characters because they were going

1288
00:59:42,309 --> 00:59:39,599
around impersonating government

1289
00:59:44,630 --> 00:59:42,319
officials and threatening american

1290
00:59:47,829 --> 00:59:44,640
citizens over their ufo sightings that

1291
00:59:49,910 --> 00:59:47,839
type of thing so this notion that you

1292
00:59:51,750 --> 00:59:49,920
could you could walk down a sidewalk and

1293
00:59:54,069 --> 00:59:51,760
walk past you know someone from another

1294
00:59:56,230 --> 00:59:54,079
planet and not give them the time of day

1295
00:59:57,910 --> 00:59:56,240
because my god

1296
00:59:59,990 --> 00:59:57,920
they blend right in

1297
01:00:02,789 --> 01:00:00,000
so again we shouldn't be so arrogant to

1298
01:00:04,710 --> 01:00:02,799
think that you know we you know have the

1299
01:00:05,829 --> 01:00:04,720
patent on what we see in the mirror

1300
01:00:08,470 --> 01:00:05,839
every morning

1301
01:00:09,829 --> 01:00:08,480
yeah it's a fascinating answer and

1302
01:00:11,670 --> 01:00:09,839
the uh

1303
01:00:13,589 --> 01:00:11,680
i talked about this in my uh little

1304
01:00:15,750 --> 01:00:13,599
opening rant today

1305
01:00:16,710 --> 01:00:15,760
that uh i

1306
01:00:30,470 --> 01:00:16,720
i

1307
01:00:32,069 --> 01:00:30,480
dna was seeded here on earth that's how

1308
01:00:35,750 --> 01:00:32,079
it got here

1309
01:00:37,349 --> 01:00:35,760
um we weren't created here and and and

1310
01:00:39,990 --> 01:00:37,359
and that's it

1311
01:00:43,270 --> 01:00:40,000
and and i'm okay with that so if dna was

1312
01:00:45,670 --> 01:00:43,280
brought here on asteroids uh

1313
01:00:47,349 --> 01:00:45,680
you know and it's it's going on

1314
01:00:49,190 --> 01:00:47,359
you know uh

1315
01:00:53,190 --> 01:00:49,200
throughout the universe

1316
01:00:55,270 --> 01:00:53,200
that why wouldn't dna also be universal

1317
01:00:56,950 --> 01:00:55,280
and and why is that such a strange

1318
01:00:58,710 --> 01:00:56,960
thought i don't think that's a strange

1319
01:01:00,630 --> 01:00:58,720
thought at all i think that answers a

1320
01:01:02,630 --> 01:01:00,640
lot of questions but quickly let's take

1321
01:01:04,950 --> 01:01:02,640
that a step further as even the late

1322
01:01:07,990 --> 01:01:04,960
carl jung would have suggested

1323
01:01:11,430 --> 01:01:08,000
that this almost becomes like a a penal

1324
01:01:13,510 --> 01:01:11,440
colony that uh this may be the universal

1325
01:01:16,470 --> 01:01:13,520
insane asylum and all the rejects are

1326
01:01:18,150 --> 01:01:16,480
deposited here have you read his book

1327
01:01:20,870 --> 01:01:18,160
young on ufos

1328
01:01:22,549 --> 01:01:20,880
many years ago yeah yeah crazy crazy

1329
01:01:24,470 --> 01:01:22,559
time though ahead of his time yep yep

1330
01:01:25,430 --> 01:01:24,480
yep there's a couple of pages in that

1331
01:01:28,870 --> 01:01:25,440
book

1332
01:01:30,789 --> 01:01:28,880
stopped me in my tracks like where did

1333
01:01:33,030 --> 01:01:30,799
he get that information from exactly

1334
01:01:35,030 --> 01:01:33,040
carl young let's let's take our break

1335
01:01:36,950 --> 01:01:35,040
right here this is fade to black i'm

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01:01:38,950 --> 01:01:36,960
murals jimmy chairs tonight the one and

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01:01:40,870 --> 01:01:38,960
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01:01:43,510 --> 01:01:40,880
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01:01:46,069 --> 01:01:43,520
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01:01:48,150 --> 01:01:46,079
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don schmidt i'm your host jimmy church

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you're listening to my main man jimmy

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01:05:45,680 --> 01:05:48,950
hi this

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01:05:56,230 --> 01:05:54,069
my good is jimmy church fade to black

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01:05:58,309 --> 01:05:56,240
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01:06:01,349 --> 01:05:58,319
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01:06:03,589 --> 01:06:01,359
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01:06:08,870 --> 01:06:03,599
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hey i'm adrian grenier and i'm ari gold

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we're the honey brothers

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01:06:16,630 --> 01:06:15,119
and you're listening to jimmy church a

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01:06:18,309 --> 01:06:16,640
revolution

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01:06:20,309 --> 01:06:18,319
this is jimmy church of fade to black

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01:06:22,630 --> 01:06:20,319
and you can become an official fate or

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01:06:26,870 --> 01:06:22,640
not by just going to our membership

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01:06:31,270 --> 01:06:28,950
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01:06:35,990 --> 01:06:33,599
to fade to black with jimmy church who

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01:06:39,589 --> 01:06:36,000
holds the lucky pony record for the best

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astrological chart since 1963. true

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01:06:44,710 --> 01:06:43,119
this is micah hanks of the ghrelian

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01:06:46,660 --> 01:06:44,720
report and you're listening to jimmy

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01:06:50,630 --> 01:06:46,670
church on fade to black

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01:06:50,950 --> 01:06:50,640
[Music]

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01:07:07,510 --> 01:06:50,960
[Applause]

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01:07:11,109 --> 01:07:09,270
welcome back fade to black i am your

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01:07:13,510 --> 01:07:11,119
host jimmy church tonight don schmidt is

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01:07:14,710 --> 01:07:13,520
with us

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01:07:16,549 --> 01:07:14,720
it goes without saying every

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01:07:18,549 --> 01:07:16,559
conversation with donna on fade to black

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01:07:19,420 --> 01:07:18,559
is the best ever

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01:07:20,710 --> 01:07:19,430
we got a lot

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01:07:22,470 --> 01:07:20,720
[Music]

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01:07:24,470 --> 01:07:22,480
the bar is said hi

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01:07:26,069 --> 01:07:24,480
don the pressure is on my man the

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01:07:27,750 --> 01:07:26,079
pressure was on

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01:07:30,789 --> 01:07:27,760
the um

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01:07:33,029 --> 01:07:30,799
the outlook uh you know i just have to

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01:07:35,109 --> 01:07:33,039
ask you directly the outlook going into

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01:07:36,710 --> 01:07:35,119
2022

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uh

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first first take is the media are they

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01:07:44,789 --> 01:07:42,400
gonna keep their foot on the gas when it

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01:07:47,190 --> 01:07:44,799
comes to the ufo question

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01:07:48,309 --> 01:07:47,200
we we observed that after

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01:07:53,349 --> 01:07:48,319
the

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01:07:55,190 --> 01:07:53,359
went to congress in june

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where everything had been building up as

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far as with the hope that we might have

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01:08:03,190 --> 01:08:01,200
disclosure with even a small d

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01:08:05,829 --> 01:08:03,200
that there would be some revelation that

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01:08:06,630 --> 01:08:05,839
was certainly the impression many

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01:08:08,829 --> 01:08:06,640
were

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presenting

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01:08:15,670 --> 01:08:12,319
and after it failed in that what was a

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01:08:17,349 --> 01:08:15,680
seven eight pages 144 cases 143 that

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01:08:20,789 --> 01:08:17,359
they couldn't explain

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01:08:22,789 --> 01:08:20,799
and the only details they provided

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01:08:25,269 --> 01:08:22,799
were on the one

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01:08:28,070 --> 01:08:25,279
involving the balloon

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01:08:30,950 --> 01:08:28,080
so we don't know anything more than we

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knew beforehand but we observed how the

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media

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01:08:36,870 --> 01:08:34,319
attention how they they moved on they

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01:08:38,789 --> 01:08:36,880
went uh to the next fire

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01:08:40,550 --> 01:08:38,799
the next uh you know terrorist attack

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01:08:42,390 --> 01:08:40,560
that type of thing

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and

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unfortunately

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01:08:48,309 --> 01:08:46,960
we allow the media to dictate

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01:08:50,390 --> 01:08:48,319
the news

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01:08:52,709 --> 01:08:50,400
they're not just reporting it they're in

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01:08:55,189 --> 01:08:52,719
many ways writing it

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01:08:58,470 --> 01:08:55,199
and if that's the case then we need to

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01:09:01,829 --> 01:08:58,480
keep we need to provide them

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01:09:03,990 --> 01:09:01,839
with material to keep this going

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01:09:06,149 --> 01:09:04,000
it's one of the things that i'm calling

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on all my colleagues yourself included

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01:09:10,229 --> 01:09:08,560
that what we we need to champion is the

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01:09:13,030 --> 01:09:10,239
fact that

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in the face of potentially

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01:09:16,309 --> 01:09:14,640
could be

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01:09:17,829 --> 01:09:16,319
a major

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01:09:20,870 --> 01:09:17,839
breakthrough

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01:09:23,669 --> 01:09:20,880
in that for the first time we have not

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01:09:29,269 --> 01:09:26,550
officials lone politicians like barry

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01:09:30,709 --> 01:09:29,279
goldwater asking general curtis lemay i

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01:09:32,950 --> 01:09:30,719
want to see the blue room at

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01:09:34,789 --> 01:09:32,960
wright-patterson air force base or the

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01:09:37,269 --> 01:09:34,799
late congressman stephen schiff of new

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01:09:38,870 --> 01:09:37,279
mexico representing his constituents in

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01:09:42,149 --> 01:09:38,880
new mexico

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01:09:44,309 --> 01:09:42,159
and these are lone individuals who are

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01:09:46,390 --> 01:09:44,319
knocking on the door and they're being

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01:09:48,630 --> 01:09:46,400
told go away

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01:09:51,269 --> 01:09:48,640
you're one individual

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01:09:53,430 --> 01:09:51,279
concern means nothing to us

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01:09:55,669 --> 01:09:53,440
but this is the first time jimmy that we

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01:09:58,950 --> 01:09:55,679
have an actual

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01:10:01,350 --> 01:09:58,960
as far as senate intel committee

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01:10:03,830 --> 01:10:01,360
that is saying

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01:10:06,310 --> 01:10:03,840
we're going to serve as an oversight

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01:10:08,390 --> 01:10:06,320
we're going to dictate terms

1522
01:10:10,950 --> 01:10:08,400
we're going to demand to see briefings

1523
01:10:12,229 --> 01:10:10,960
we're going to have reports

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01:10:13,910 --> 01:10:12,239
albeit

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01:10:15,510 --> 01:10:13,920
it's going to remain classified very

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01:10:17,669 --> 01:10:15,520
little is going to trickle out to the

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01:10:18,709 --> 01:10:17,679
public because we want to maintain

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01:10:20,229 --> 01:10:18,719
control

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01:10:22,950 --> 01:10:20,239
i think the problem with the government

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01:10:25,430 --> 01:10:22,960
too often is when things get leaked

1531
01:10:27,430 --> 01:10:25,440
things get muddy and as a result it's a

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01:10:28,470 --> 01:10:27,440
flip of the coin

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01:10:30,390 --> 01:10:28,480
but

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01:10:32,470 --> 01:10:30,400
what we have to push for more than

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01:10:35,990 --> 01:10:32,480
anything else

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01:10:38,390 --> 01:10:36,000
is congressional hearings that if enough

1537
01:10:39,990 --> 01:10:38,400
congressmen finally say this is a

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01:10:42,229 --> 01:10:40,000
75-year

1539
01:10:44,630 --> 01:10:42,239
cover-up they have been suppressing the

1540
01:10:46,630 --> 01:10:44,640
truth all this time

1541
01:10:48,470 --> 01:10:46,640
who are they

1542
01:10:50,470 --> 01:10:48,480
to tell us

1543
01:10:51,590 --> 01:10:50,480
there's nothing there

1544
01:10:54,310 --> 01:10:51,600
when

1545
01:10:56,790 --> 01:10:54,320
for 75 years they've been investigating

1546
01:10:59,430 --> 01:10:56,800
something and obviously

1547
01:11:01,189 --> 01:10:59,440
something is very much there there's a

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01:11:03,590 --> 01:11:01,199
there there

1549
01:11:06,470 --> 01:11:03,600
we have to provide all the potential

1550
01:11:09,350 --> 01:11:06,480
whistleblowers the pilots the crew

1551
01:11:10,870 --> 01:11:09,360
the ship's captains the tower operators

1552
01:11:13,110 --> 01:11:10,880
sac officers

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01:11:16,630 --> 01:11:13,120
for the first time an opportunity to

1554
01:11:19,189 --> 01:11:16,640
testify in public without reprisal

1555
01:11:21,910 --> 01:11:19,199
without fear of loss of pension and

1556
01:11:24,470 --> 01:11:21,920
benefits and imprisonment

1557
01:11:26,470 --> 01:11:24,480
uh janet 146 which is joint army navy

1558
01:11:30,310 --> 01:11:26,480
air force procedure you know dictates

1559
01:11:32,709 --> 01:11:30,320
precisely you know what ramifications

1560
01:11:34,870 --> 01:11:32,719
any government officials face if they

1561
01:11:36,229 --> 01:11:34,880
disclose classified ufo for information

1562
01:11:38,390 --> 01:11:36,239
to the public

1563
01:11:42,229 --> 01:11:38,400
this needs to be abolished

1564
01:11:45,430 --> 01:11:42,239
and the in congress has that power

1565
01:11:47,510 --> 01:11:45,440
they can provide immunity they can

1566
01:11:49,669 --> 01:11:47,520
subpoena witnesses

1567
01:11:52,149 --> 01:11:49,679
just imagine if this would have been

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01:11:54,310 --> 01:11:52,159
done while a hundred of the roswell

1569
01:11:56,310 --> 01:11:54,320
witnesses were still alive right and

1570
01:12:01,189 --> 01:11:56,320
just imagine if we were having the

1571
01:12:04,470 --> 01:12:01,199
citizens hearing in washington today

1572
01:12:08,390 --> 01:12:04,480
and we could invite these actual

1573
01:12:11,430 --> 01:12:08,400
officials to come here firsthand from

1574
01:12:12,709 --> 01:12:11,440
witnesses from researchers from all over

1575
01:12:14,550 --> 01:12:12,719
the world

1576
01:12:15,830 --> 01:12:14,560
demonstrating that this isn't just an

1577
01:12:17,830 --> 01:12:15,840
american

1578
01:12:19,990 --> 01:12:17,840
phenomenon this is global

1579
01:12:23,350 --> 01:12:20,000
i think there would have been you know

1580
01:12:25,830 --> 01:12:23,360
such an awakening an illumination

1581
01:12:26,709 --> 01:12:25,840
on the part of these officials that

1582
01:12:28,790 --> 01:12:26,719
no

1583
01:12:30,149 --> 01:12:28,800
military in the world will be able to

1584
01:12:33,189 --> 01:12:30,159
stop it

1585
01:12:34,950 --> 01:12:33,199
because once that dam breaks

1586
01:12:37,669 --> 01:12:34,960
and so that's where

1587
01:12:40,149 --> 01:12:37,679
that's what we can champion that we now

1588
01:12:43,350 --> 01:12:40,159
we we push harder than ever

1589
01:12:46,390 --> 01:12:43,360
that you have to provide these people

1590
01:12:48,870 --> 01:12:46,400
with an opportunity to go on the record

1591
01:12:50,229 --> 01:12:48,880
and tell you in other words

1592
01:12:51,830 --> 01:12:50,239
we're not we're not going to recommend

1593
01:12:55,189 --> 01:12:51,840
any books we're not going to recommend

1594
01:12:59,030 --> 01:12:55,199
any researchers you need to talk to the

1595
01:12:59,910 --> 01:12:59,040
very people who've had these encounters

1596
01:13:05,510 --> 01:12:59,920
and

1597
01:13:06,950 --> 01:13:05,520
names but you have to provide them with

1598
01:13:08,709 --> 01:13:06,960
this opportunity

1599
01:13:10,070 --> 01:13:08,719
the um

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01:13:11,669 --> 01:13:10,080
the question

1601
01:13:14,070 --> 01:13:11,679
that uh

1602
01:13:16,550 --> 01:13:14,080
that i hear it still comes up

1603
01:13:17,590 --> 01:13:16,560
uh something that you are quite used to

1604
01:13:20,310 --> 01:13:17,600
hearing is

1605
01:13:22,870 --> 01:13:20,320
how is it possible to keep something

1606
01:13:23,910 --> 01:13:22,880
like this a secret

1607
01:13:28,149 --> 01:13:23,920
and

1608
01:13:30,870 --> 01:13:28,159
immediately i point out roswell

1609
01:13:33,110 --> 01:13:30,880
because between 1947

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01:13:36,709 --> 01:13:33,120
and 1980

1611
01:13:39,270 --> 01:13:36,719
i want anybody to show me where roswell

1612
01:13:43,590 --> 01:13:39,280
was mentioned in the media

1613
01:13:46,790 --> 01:13:43,600
it doesn't exist it it it was the

1614
01:13:49,030 --> 01:13:46,800
the most efficient cover-up

1615
01:13:51,350 --> 01:13:49,040
that is that has ever taken place and

1616
01:13:53,350 --> 01:13:51,360
there were a few trickles there were a

1617
01:13:56,630 --> 01:13:53,360
couple of books

1618
01:14:02,630 --> 01:13:56,640
uh like uh harold t wilkins and frank

1619
01:14:07,030 --> 01:14:05,430
here's here's the thing uh that that i

1620
01:14:09,110 --> 01:14:07,040
point out

1621
01:14:11,350 --> 01:14:09,120
before art bell

1622
01:14:15,669 --> 01:14:11,360
before coast to coast before jimmy

1623
01:14:18,709 --> 01:14:15,679
church before fade to black there was a

1624
01:14:22,550 --> 01:14:18,719
long john neville and and i have gone

1625
01:14:25,750 --> 01:14:22,560
back and and i study radio i love radio

1626
01:14:27,990 --> 01:14:25,760
i study it and i i have gone back and i

1627
01:14:29,030 --> 01:14:28,000
have listened to it's taken me a long

1628
01:14:31,990 --> 01:14:29,040
time

1629
01:14:35,189 --> 01:14:32,000
to all of the archive john long john

1630
01:14:36,950 --> 01:14:35,199
nebel broadcast of which um

1631
01:14:38,709 --> 01:14:36,960
he had on

1632
01:14:43,750 --> 01:14:38,719
everybody

1633
01:14:44,950 --> 01:14:43,760
claimed you had been the venus and back

1634
01:14:47,910 --> 01:14:44,960
everybody

1635
01:14:51,189 --> 01:14:47,920
uh and and heavily discussed were nazi

1636
01:14:54,390 --> 01:14:51,199
ufos and and the inner earth and and

1637
01:14:57,110 --> 01:14:54,400
crash sightings and and uh

1638
01:14:59,750 --> 01:14:57,120
every ev every witness everything

1639
01:15:02,950 --> 01:14:59,760
everything was discussed top to bottom

1640
01:15:05,270 --> 01:15:02,960
for 30 years on that show for six hours

1641
01:15:06,790 --> 01:15:05,280
a night except

1642
01:15:09,910 --> 01:15:06,800
roswell

1643
01:15:12,790 --> 01:15:09,920
correct it's it's my it's like it's the

1644
01:15:14,550 --> 01:15:12,800
most complete ufo archive the historical

1645
01:15:16,790 --> 01:15:14,560
record right it's long john neville's

1646
01:15:19,830 --> 01:15:16,800
show the party line

1647
01:15:22,550 --> 01:15:19,840
nobody mentions roswell

1648
01:15:25,030 --> 01:15:22,560
it's like the most mind-blowing thing

1649
01:15:28,310 --> 01:15:25,040
the leading researchers of the day in

1650
01:15:30,550 --> 01:15:28,320
that period everybody there's no mention

1651
01:15:33,669 --> 01:15:30,560
of roswell how can that be

1652
01:15:36,870 --> 01:15:33,679
that's because they covered it up

1653
01:15:40,630 --> 01:15:36,880
that's correct and i don't believe

1654
01:15:44,149 --> 01:15:40,640
anyone has demonstrated that

1655
01:15:46,870 --> 01:15:44,159
as well as the actual eyewitnesses

1656
01:15:49,590 --> 01:15:46,880
the level of intimidation and fear that

1657
01:15:51,669 --> 01:15:49,600
they were subjected to at the very time

1658
01:15:54,630 --> 01:15:51,679
and for years thereafter

1659
01:15:56,870 --> 01:15:54,640
and then in recent times and as we had

1660
01:15:58,149 --> 01:15:56,880
mentioned the late congressman stephen

1661
01:16:00,709 --> 01:15:58,159
schiff

1662
01:16:02,470 --> 01:16:00,719
the fact that you had a senior congress

1663
01:16:05,110 --> 01:16:02,480
official

1664
01:16:07,590 --> 01:16:05,120
who knocked on doors white house

1665
01:16:10,630 --> 01:16:07,600
pentagon sent three separate letters to

1666
01:16:13,750 --> 01:16:10,640
the then secretary of defense less aspen

1667
01:16:15,590 --> 01:16:13,760
and the gao and got the gao involved the

1668
01:16:17,189 --> 01:16:15,600
general accounting office

1669
01:16:20,310 --> 01:16:17,199
i want to see the files i want to see

1670
01:16:21,270 --> 01:16:20,320
the records and they're basically told

1671
01:16:23,669 --> 01:16:21,280
you know

1672
01:16:26,950 --> 01:16:23,679
go take a hike

1673
01:16:27,830 --> 01:16:26,960
and isn't it the the irony that's since

1674
01:16:30,390 --> 01:16:27,840
then

1675
01:16:32,790 --> 01:16:30,400
you have former presidents

1676
01:16:35,189 --> 01:16:32,800
you have senators congressmen

1677
01:16:37,350 --> 01:16:35,199
you have former governor bill richardson

1678
01:16:39,270 --> 01:16:37,360
of new mexico wrote one of the forwards

1679
01:16:42,310 --> 01:16:39,280
to one of our books

1680
01:16:43,510 --> 01:16:42,320
you have astronauts like edgar mitchell

1681
01:16:46,630 --> 01:16:43,520
who grew up

1682
01:16:48,550 --> 01:16:46,640
south of roswell at that time knew many

1683
01:16:52,229 --> 01:16:48,560
of these officers who were stationed at

1684
01:16:55,590 --> 01:16:52,239
that first atomic bomb squadron base in

1685
01:16:57,590 --> 01:16:55,600
the world the elite the best officers

1686
01:16:58,709 --> 01:16:57,600
the best pilots crew

1687
01:17:01,350 --> 01:16:58,719
crewmen

1688
01:17:03,030 --> 01:17:01,360
in the u.s military at that time if you

1689
01:17:05,590 --> 01:17:03,040
swept the broom on that base back in

1690
01:17:08,229 --> 01:17:05,600
1947 it was because you were the best

1691
01:17:10,149 --> 01:17:08,239
sweeper in the entire u.s military and

1692
01:17:12,149 --> 01:17:10,159
you all had a top security clearance on

1693
01:17:14,790 --> 01:17:12,159
the atomic bomb

1694
01:17:16,310 --> 01:17:14,800
and the idea that after all these years

1695
01:17:17,910 --> 01:17:16,320
the united states government is saying

1696
01:17:19,750 --> 01:17:17,920
yeah but they couldn't recognize

1697
01:17:21,669 --> 01:17:19,760
something a five-year-old child would

1698
01:17:25,750 --> 01:17:21,679
have recognized in short order that's

1699
01:17:28,310 --> 01:17:25,760
right rubber sticks string and tape

1700
01:17:30,630 --> 01:17:28,320
i'm sorry you lose me right there you've

1701
01:17:33,189 --> 01:17:30,640
lost the argument you can try to you

1702
01:17:34,870 --> 01:17:33,199
know again you prove that because you

1703
01:17:38,790 --> 01:17:34,880
cannot come up with a single witness to

1704
01:17:40,310 --> 01:17:38,800
that effect not one not one

1705
01:17:42,870 --> 01:17:40,320
and

1706
01:17:46,630 --> 01:17:42,880
taking roswell out of the picture

1707
01:17:50,390 --> 01:17:46,640
you had the entire state of new mexico

1708
01:17:54,550 --> 01:17:50,400
had the smartest scientists scientific

1709
01:17:57,669 --> 01:17:54,560
minds in the entire world were all there

1710
01:18:00,790 --> 01:17:57,679
yes that's it including the ones they

1711
01:18:03,830 --> 01:18:00,800
just brought over from germany

1712
01:18:07,350 --> 01:18:03,840
berlin and the fact that within recent

1713
01:18:10,550 --> 01:18:07,360
years we have name names we're finding

1714
01:18:13,189 --> 01:18:10,560
the families we're finding the doctors

1715
01:18:16,229 --> 01:18:13,199
who took the deathbed confessions from

1716
01:18:18,310 --> 01:18:16,239
members of paperclip former nazi

1717
01:18:21,590 --> 01:18:18,320
scientists who were brought in the

1718
01:18:24,709 --> 01:18:21,600
roswell to look at the wreckage to see

1719
01:18:26,950 --> 01:18:24,719
if they could identify what they

1720
01:18:27,990 --> 01:18:26,960
are american military had never seen

1721
01:18:30,070 --> 01:18:28,000
before

1722
01:18:32,310 --> 01:18:30,080
you know so

1723
01:18:35,669 --> 01:18:32,320
i want to back up for a second uh i left

1724
01:18:36,100 --> 01:18:35,679
two names off of that list that

1725
01:18:37,669 --> 01:18:36,110
uh

1726
01:18:41,110 --> 01:18:37,679
[Music]

1727
01:18:42,790 --> 01:18:41,120
i was just fascinated with this

1728
01:18:45,350 --> 01:18:42,800
kenneth arnold

1729
01:18:48,070 --> 01:18:45,360
and donald kehoe

1730
01:18:51,590 --> 01:18:48,080
never mentioned roswell

1731
01:18:54,390 --> 01:18:51,600
how is that how is it possible

1732
01:18:55,510 --> 01:18:54,400
donald kehoe who got cut off of cbs

1733
01:18:58,950 --> 01:18:55,520
television

1734
01:19:02,229 --> 01:18:58,960
mid-sentence right uh

1735
01:19:04,950 --> 01:19:02,239
and and kenneth arnold who these two

1736
01:19:08,070 --> 01:19:04,960
guys were on every tv show were on every

1737
01:19:10,950 --> 01:19:08,080
radio show writing books speaking

1738
01:19:13,830 --> 01:19:10,960
touring the country that's what they did

1739
01:19:15,910 --> 01:19:13,840
and brought up every significant case

1740
01:19:17,669 --> 01:19:15,920
all of the proof everything that they

1741
01:19:19,750 --> 01:19:17,679
wanted you know going back to kenneth

1742
01:19:23,110 --> 01:19:19,760
arnold in in seattle

1743
01:19:25,910 --> 01:19:23,120
um never mentioned roswell

1744
01:19:27,189 --> 01:19:25,920
it's it's it's it's crazy

1745
01:19:29,110 --> 01:19:27,199
it doesn't make sense

1746
01:19:30,790 --> 01:19:29,120
but as you said

1747
01:19:33,510 --> 01:19:30,800
the cover-up

1748
01:19:36,390 --> 01:19:33,520
and the risk that they took

1749
01:19:39,510 --> 01:19:36,400
in trotting out a weather balloon

1750
01:19:41,430 --> 01:19:39,520
and hoping that it would stick

1751
01:19:43,189 --> 01:19:41,440
hoping that the press would accept it

1752
01:19:43,830 --> 01:19:43,199
now keeping in mind that post world war

1753
01:19:46,070 --> 01:19:43,840
ii

1754
01:19:49,110 --> 01:19:46,080
the military walked on water

1755
01:19:51,350 --> 01:19:49,120
that if they told you sky was red it

1756
01:19:53,030 --> 01:19:51,360
wrap it up and you yeah you you believed

1757
01:19:56,070 --> 01:19:53,040
it yeah it's right yeah

1758
01:19:57,510 --> 01:19:56,080
and so all they had to do was say trust

1759
01:20:00,229 --> 01:19:57,520
us

1760
01:20:02,550 --> 01:20:00,239
we haven't let you down before

1761
01:20:04,790 --> 01:20:02,560
and we wouldn't you know make this up if

1762
01:20:06,790 --> 01:20:04,800
it wasn't true they built up the straw

1763
01:20:08,470 --> 01:20:06,800
man they first put out the press release

1764
01:20:10,870 --> 01:20:08,480
claimed they had they actually got one

1765
01:20:13,830 --> 01:20:10,880
they captured a flying saucer five hours

1766
01:20:15,189 --> 01:20:13,840
later our mistake we blew it it's

1767
01:20:16,149 --> 01:20:15,199
nothing more than a weather balloon

1768
01:20:17,189 --> 01:20:16,159
device

1769
01:20:19,990 --> 01:20:17,199
okay

1770
01:20:21,750 --> 01:20:20,000
and no reason for ken arnold kenneth

1771
01:20:23,669 --> 01:20:21,760
arnold to say a word about it after that

1772
01:20:25,510 --> 01:20:23,679
fact and i think with

1773
01:20:27,990 --> 01:20:25,520
with donald keyhole as you mentioned

1774
01:20:29,990 --> 01:20:28,000
when he was and the director

1775
01:20:32,709 --> 01:20:30,000
of uh nightcap the national

1776
01:20:34,470 --> 01:20:32,719
investigations committee on area

1777
01:20:38,229 --> 01:20:34,480
phenomenon

1778
01:20:40,149 --> 01:20:38,239
they fed him the pentagon fed him a lot

1779
01:20:42,470 --> 01:20:40,159
of mundane cases

1780
01:20:45,350 --> 01:20:42,480
and i think to keep him distracted i

1781
01:20:47,189 --> 01:20:45,360
mean he wrote i mean wonderful books on

1782
01:20:50,149 --> 01:20:47,199
the subject i mean

1783
01:20:52,070 --> 01:20:50,159
as far as he was a true champion from

1784
01:20:54,870 --> 01:20:52,080
the very get-go i mean since you know

1785
01:20:55,990 --> 01:20:54,880
from 1948 thereon

1786
01:20:58,870 --> 01:20:56,000
but

1787
01:21:01,990 --> 01:20:58,880
he was chasing down all these military

1788
01:21:03,750 --> 01:21:02,000
cases but they weren't the hardcore

1789
01:21:06,950 --> 01:21:03,760
they didn't involve

1790
01:21:08,070 --> 01:21:06,960
occupants they weren't crash retrieval

1791
01:21:09,750 --> 01:21:08,080
cases

1792
01:21:12,629 --> 01:21:09,760
and as a result you go back through all

1793
01:21:15,110 --> 01:21:12,639
the nightcap files as we have there's no

1794
01:21:19,030 --> 01:21:15,120
mention of crash retrievals that works

1795
01:21:21,590 --> 01:21:19,040
taken seriously nightcap had a very

1796
01:21:23,750 --> 01:21:21,600
negative position about such

1797
01:21:28,470 --> 01:21:23,760
possibilities in fact if you were to

1798
01:21:30,629 --> 01:21:28,480
look into kehoe's actual uh position on

1799
01:21:32,790 --> 01:21:30,639
flying saucers he believed they were

1800
01:21:34,229 --> 01:21:32,800
unmanned probes

1801
01:21:36,229 --> 01:21:34,239
see he didn't accept the occupant

1802
01:21:37,910 --> 01:21:36,239
reports either

1803
01:21:41,669 --> 01:21:37,920
he just felt that

1804
01:21:44,149 --> 01:21:41,679
it was it was stretching it beyond uh

1805
01:21:46,229 --> 01:21:44,159
you know the idea that uh it's enough to

1806
01:21:48,070 --> 01:21:46,239
just demonstrate we're being visited

1807
01:21:50,310 --> 01:21:48,080
from another planet without pulling

1808
01:21:52,229 --> 01:21:50,320
pilots inside as well

1809
01:21:54,229 --> 01:21:52,239
and so that's one of the i would say

1810
01:21:56,550 --> 01:21:54,239
that's the main reason that keyhole

1811
01:21:58,550 --> 01:21:56,560
didn't mention roswell not only because

1812
01:22:01,030 --> 01:21:58,560
it was effectively covered up

1813
01:22:03,350 --> 01:22:01,040
but that uh as far as he was concerned

1814
01:22:06,149 --> 01:22:03,360
crash retrievals don't don't even go

1815
01:22:08,149 --> 01:22:06,159
there well but but back to my point

1816
01:22:10,550 --> 01:22:08,159
though uh and then i want to move

1817
01:22:13,110 --> 01:22:10,560
forward to uh 2022.

1818
01:22:16,070 --> 01:22:13,120
long john neville um

1819
01:22:18,470 --> 01:22:16,080
had a vast amount of knowledge and he

1820
01:22:19,669 --> 01:22:18,480
would have four or five guests on uh you

1821
01:22:21,669 --> 01:22:19,679
know it was called the party line so

1822
01:22:23,590 --> 01:22:21,679
they would all sit around and talk about

1823
01:22:25,910 --> 01:22:23,600
these things and he had every arthur c

1824
01:22:28,870 --> 01:22:25,920
clark you know everybody on this show

1825
01:22:30,709 --> 01:22:28,880
but uh and he would ask uh some pretty

1826
01:22:32,629 --> 01:22:30,719
amazing questions they had a switchboard

1827
01:22:35,189 --> 01:22:32,639
they would take calls

1828
01:22:37,830 --> 01:22:35,199
in the 50s they had a whole bank of

1829
01:22:39,750 --> 01:22:37,840
operators there plugging in cables

1830
01:22:40,950 --> 01:22:39,760
taking phone calls anyway

1831
01:22:45,030 --> 01:22:40,960
um

1832
01:22:48,709 --> 01:22:45,040
neville never asked kehoe about roswell

1833
01:22:51,669 --> 01:22:48,719
and and he never asked uh kenneth arnold

1834
01:22:54,790 --> 01:22:51,679
and i bring up kenneth arnold and donald

1835
01:22:56,870 --> 01:22:54,800
kehoe because they were a repeat guest

1836
01:22:57,990 --> 01:22:56,880
on the show they were on the show all

1837
01:22:59,590 --> 01:22:58,000
the time

1838
01:23:01,350 --> 01:22:59,600
and and i've listened to each one of

1839
01:23:04,070 --> 01:23:01,360
them i'm trying to pick that up that

1840
01:23:06,149 --> 01:23:04,080
little roswell nugget and not even

1841
01:23:07,189 --> 01:23:06,159
neville uh brought this up which brings

1842
01:23:09,110 --> 01:23:07,199
me to

1843
01:23:12,229 --> 01:23:09,120
uh 2022

1844
01:23:15,750 --> 01:23:12,239
why all of the sudden

1845
01:23:17,910 --> 01:23:15,760
is the government our friend

1846
01:23:19,350 --> 01:23:17,920
what's going on with that

1847
01:23:22,709 --> 01:23:19,360
and

1848
01:23:26,229 --> 01:23:22,719
would advise that once again

1849
01:23:28,550 --> 01:23:26,239
we kept we we need to consider

1850
01:23:30,550 --> 01:23:28,560
who we're going to bed with right now

1851
01:23:32,550 --> 01:23:30,560
and we're talking about the very people

1852
01:23:36,709 --> 01:23:32,560
the very arbiters of the cover-up for

1853
01:23:39,350 --> 01:23:36,719
the past 75 years why now what has

1854
01:23:42,070 --> 01:23:39,360
changed why should we trust them any

1855
01:23:43,910 --> 01:23:42,080
more today than they did at that press

1856
01:23:45,830 --> 01:23:43,920
conference when they switched the actual

1857
01:23:47,910 --> 01:23:45,840
material and substituted a weather

1858
01:23:50,470 --> 01:23:47,920
balloon and said ladies and gentlemen

1859
01:23:52,310 --> 01:23:50,480
those morons over roswell couldn't

1860
01:23:56,390 --> 01:23:52,320
recognize the weather balloon well

1861
01:24:00,070 --> 01:23:56,400
that's i'm asking you the question don

1862
01:24:02,709 --> 01:24:00,080
why why why now

1863
01:24:04,870 --> 01:24:02,719
i i asked that very question jimmy i i

1864
01:24:06,790 --> 01:24:04,880
really i can't answer that

1865
01:24:10,310 --> 01:24:06,800
i don't know if it's if it's for

1866
01:24:11,990 --> 01:24:10,320
distraction i don't know if it's uh

1867
01:24:12,950 --> 01:24:12,000
because

1868
01:24:14,790 --> 01:24:12,960
they're

1869
01:24:17,030 --> 01:24:14,800
i'd like to believe for example i know

1870
01:24:19,110 --> 01:24:17,040
we've talked about this before

1871
01:24:21,669 --> 01:24:19,120
but this time it's the navy

1872
01:24:22,790 --> 01:24:21,679
and anyone who's done any research on

1873
01:24:26,470 --> 01:24:22,800
the subject

1874
01:24:29,030 --> 01:24:26,480
realizes that naval intelligence

1875
01:24:30,870 --> 01:24:29,040
is at the top we talk about air force

1876
01:24:32,470 --> 01:24:30,880
intelligence where they're they're down

1877
01:24:34,229 --> 01:24:32,480
here in the middle

1878
01:24:37,030 --> 01:24:34,239
and they only have as far as

1879
01:24:39,669 --> 01:24:37,040
surveillance and control over as far as

1880
01:24:42,310 --> 01:24:39,679
uh as far as sovereign air space we're

1881
01:24:45,270 --> 01:24:42,320
not going to be retrieving information

1882
01:24:48,790 --> 01:24:45,280
on a global level the way the navy would

1883
01:24:52,310 --> 01:24:48,800
have just that global surveillance

1884
01:24:54,790 --> 01:24:52,320
and as a result it's long been suggested

1885
01:24:56,550 --> 01:24:54,800
that the navy has been the true

1886
01:24:58,709 --> 01:24:56,560
investigation of the phenomena so let's

1887
01:25:01,110 --> 01:24:58,719
go back as far as when project blue book

1888
01:25:03,030 --> 01:25:01,120
the most famous of the three official

1889
01:25:04,950 --> 01:25:03,040
investigations project sign grudge and

1890
01:25:07,750 --> 01:25:04,960
in blue book and when blue book was

1891
01:25:09,750 --> 01:25:07,760
declassified in 1977 during the jimmy

1892
01:25:12,070 --> 01:25:09,760
carter administration

1893
01:25:13,350 --> 01:25:12,080
and we're looking at over 13 000 cases

1894
01:25:15,270 --> 01:25:13,360
and we're going

1895
01:25:17,590 --> 01:25:15,280
well this was the official united states

1896
01:25:19,990 --> 01:25:17,600
government investigation on the ufo

1897
01:25:22,229 --> 01:25:20,000
phenomenon and it's like where are the

1898
01:25:24,629 --> 01:25:22,239
navy cases

1899
01:25:26,870 --> 01:25:24,639
where are the army

1900
01:25:29,030 --> 01:25:26,880
we're in the marine corps coast guard on

1901
01:25:31,750 --> 01:25:29,040
and on and on so there was about a there

1902
01:25:33,590 --> 01:25:31,760
was a handful of other branches

1903
01:25:35,510 --> 01:25:33,600
and yet this was the official

1904
01:25:37,270 --> 01:25:35,520
investigation

1905
01:25:39,270 --> 01:25:37,280
where was everything else

1906
01:25:41,830 --> 01:25:39,280
and so it became part of what heinrich

1907
01:25:43,110 --> 01:25:41,840
was always telling us that the hardcore

1908
01:25:45,510 --> 01:25:43,120
cases

1909
01:25:47,590 --> 01:25:45,520
were going upstairs there was another

1910
01:25:50,310 --> 01:25:47,600
separate investigation that had nothing

1911
01:25:51,189 --> 01:25:50,320
to do with the pr front that blue book

1912
01:25:52,870 --> 01:25:51,199
was

1913
01:25:54,550 --> 01:25:52,880
this is what ladies and gentlemen this

1914
01:25:56,550 --> 01:25:54,560
is what we're going to tell you this is

1915
01:25:58,709 --> 01:25:56,560
what we want you to believe but what's

1916
01:26:01,430 --> 01:25:58,719
really happening behind the scenes

1917
01:26:03,350 --> 01:26:01,440
you have no need to know

1918
01:26:05,189 --> 01:26:03,360
and i would like to believe that the

1919
01:26:07,189 --> 01:26:05,199
navy finally

1920
01:26:08,709 --> 01:26:07,199
got fed up with the air force always

1921
01:26:11,030 --> 01:26:08,719
speaking for them

1922
01:26:12,470 --> 01:26:11,040
and after their pilots like fravor and

1923
01:26:15,590 --> 01:26:12,480
the others as far as had their

1924
01:26:17,990 --> 01:26:15,600
experiences it was like my god we got to

1925
01:26:19,990 --> 01:26:18,000
stand with our own personnel they saw

1926
01:26:21,990 --> 01:26:20,000
something we tracked it they have gun

1927
01:26:24,629 --> 01:26:22,000
camera footage i mean there's something

1928
01:26:25,990 --> 01:26:24,639
there that defies you know the laws of

1929
01:26:28,870 --> 01:26:26,000
physics the defies conventional

1930
01:26:31,270 --> 01:26:28,880
explanation we have to respond to it and

1931
01:26:33,830 --> 01:26:31,280
and as we observe who has been strangely

1932
01:26:36,870 --> 01:26:33,840
silent through all of this

1933
01:26:38,870 --> 01:26:36,880
well once again the us air force who

1934
01:26:41,990 --> 01:26:38,880
feels we washed our hands of this back

1935
01:26:43,750 --> 01:26:42,000
in 1969 nothing to it and there's

1936
01:26:46,229 --> 01:26:43,760
nothing more to be gained from looking

1937
01:26:48,310 --> 01:26:46,239
into it well if i was i was the navy

1938
01:26:50,790 --> 01:26:48,320
right now i would say kiss my butt and

1939
01:26:52,790 --> 01:26:50,800
say now now it's our turn

1940
01:26:55,030 --> 01:26:52,800
that's what i would love

1941
01:26:58,149 --> 01:26:55,040
to think is going on here

1942
01:26:59,590 --> 01:26:58,159
is this the wrong time uh

1943
01:27:02,629 --> 01:26:59,600
for

1944
01:27:04,390 --> 01:27:02,639
some of the not all but some of the ufo

1945
01:27:07,030 --> 01:27:04,400
community

1946
01:27:08,470 --> 01:27:07,040
is this the wrong time to relax

1947
01:27:11,830 --> 01:27:08,480
like you know

1948
01:27:14,390 --> 01:27:11,840
suddenly the the disclosure is is is

1949
01:27:15,669 --> 01:27:14,400
inevitable and and our job is done we

1950
01:27:16,629 --> 01:27:15,679
can relax

1951
01:27:18,709 --> 01:27:16,639
uh

1952
01:27:21,910 --> 01:27:18,719
the pentagon department of defense now

1953
01:27:22,950 --> 01:27:21,920
are are going to uh be a part of our

1954
01:27:25,030 --> 01:27:22,960
community

1955
01:27:26,310 --> 01:27:25,040
it's the wrong time to sit on our hands

1956
01:27:27,990 --> 01:27:26,320
isn't it

1957
01:27:30,070 --> 01:27:28,000
totally totally that's why as we were

1958
01:27:32,709 --> 01:27:30,080
talking earlier that we need to put the

1959
01:27:34,390 --> 01:27:32,719
pressure on that for once let's take

1960
01:27:37,110 --> 01:27:34,400
this away from the pentagon let's take

1961
01:27:39,510 --> 01:27:37,120
this away from the military and

1962
01:27:42,070 --> 01:27:39,520
let's make congress perform due

1963
01:27:44,950 --> 01:27:42,080
diligence they need to step up and

1964
01:27:49,189 --> 01:27:44,960
finally open this up for congressional

1965
01:27:51,430 --> 01:27:49,199
hearings allow the true people involved

1966
01:27:53,430 --> 01:27:51,440
who have been involved who have been

1967
01:27:55,870 --> 01:27:53,440
forced into silence who have been you

1968
01:27:58,950 --> 01:27:55,880
know who signed as far as statements of

1969
01:28:00,950 --> 01:27:58,960
non-disclosure who have been ridiculed

1970
01:28:03,270 --> 01:28:00,960
and you know it's been a career breaker

1971
01:28:05,270 --> 01:28:03,280
for 75 years

1972
01:28:07,189 --> 01:28:05,280
this has to change i'd like to believe

1973
01:28:09,669 --> 01:28:07,199
it has changed that the stigma has been

1974
01:28:11,270 --> 01:28:09,679
removed that now you can talk about this

1975
01:28:13,110 --> 01:28:11,280
a mixed company it's like well yeah the

1976
01:28:16,550 --> 01:28:13,120
government's now actually looking into

1977
01:28:19,270 --> 01:28:16,560
it and we're hoping we can assist them

1978
01:28:21,270 --> 01:28:19,280
what they have to demonstrate is but

1979
01:28:22,950 --> 01:28:21,280
we're the old school we're the ones

1980
01:28:23,990 --> 01:28:22,960
who've still been working on this all

1981
01:28:25,990 --> 01:28:24,000
the while

1982
01:28:27,990 --> 01:28:26,000
we're the ones that have been providing

1983
01:28:29,510 --> 01:28:28,000
all the data whether you'd like to

1984
01:28:30,310 --> 01:28:29,520
accept it or not

1985
01:28:34,709 --> 01:28:30,320
and

1986
01:28:37,030 --> 01:28:34,719
as a result as we often had military

1987
01:28:38,550 --> 01:28:37,040
officers tell us regarding our roswell

1988
01:28:40,149 --> 01:28:38,560
investigation

1989
01:28:41,510 --> 01:28:40,159
whenever we would come up with new

1990
01:28:43,510 --> 01:28:41,520
witnesses

1991
01:28:45,750 --> 01:28:43,520
they would occasionally call up or talk

1992
01:28:48,070 --> 01:28:45,760
to us and go oh my god thanks thanks a

1993
01:28:49,910 --> 01:28:48,080
lot don you you filled us in on that we

1994
01:28:52,229 --> 01:28:49,920
didn't know about so-and-so you helped

1995
01:28:53,830 --> 01:28:52,239
us plug that leak and then you call them

1996
01:28:55,030 --> 01:28:53,840
up the next time and nope not talking to

1997
01:28:58,070 --> 01:28:55,040
you again

1998
01:29:00,229 --> 01:28:58,080
so we were in ways you know helping them

1999
01:29:01,669 --> 01:29:00,239
you know as far as discover witnesses

2000
01:29:03,110 --> 01:29:01,679
that they had forgotten who were

2001
01:29:05,270 --> 01:29:03,120
unaccounted for

2002
01:29:07,590 --> 01:29:05,280
so we got to make sure that we don't

2003
01:29:09,910 --> 01:29:07,600
allow that to happen again now what

2004
01:29:12,550 --> 01:29:09,920
about your family before the break um

2005
01:29:13,990 --> 01:29:12,560
what about your family are they now

2006
01:29:14,690 --> 01:29:14,000
looking at you going well i guess you

2007
01:29:16,229 --> 01:29:14,700
was right

2008
01:29:17,030 --> 01:29:16,239
[Laughter]

2009
01:29:19,030 --> 01:29:17,040
um

2010
01:29:21,189 --> 01:29:19,040
we thought you were a little we thought

2011
01:29:24,229 --> 01:29:21,199
you were a little bit but

2012
01:29:26,229 --> 01:29:24,239
but i guess you was right yeah i as i

2013
01:29:29,270 --> 01:29:26,239
mentioned i have five brothers

2014
01:29:31,030 --> 01:29:29,280
and it's the sister-in-laws

2015
01:29:33,830 --> 01:29:31,040
who generally have been the ones

2016
01:29:36,550 --> 01:29:33,840
behaving that way but my brothers it's

2017
01:29:39,270 --> 01:29:36,560
like if if it's enough if it's important

2018
01:29:41,270 --> 01:29:39,280
enough that for don to look into it

2019
01:29:43,270 --> 01:29:41,280
even though i'm not interested

2020
01:29:44,070 --> 01:29:43,280
you know i stand with them 100 and they

2021
01:29:46,950 --> 01:29:44,080
do

2022
01:29:49,830 --> 01:29:46,960
uh i have heard many times somebody

2023
01:29:52,149 --> 01:29:49,840
would make make jest make fun behind my

2024
01:29:55,110 --> 01:29:52,159
back in front of them and they would

2025
01:29:58,229 --> 01:29:55,120
step in like mother lions as like no you

2026
01:30:00,229 --> 01:29:58,239
don't you don't go there so yeah okay i

2027
01:30:04,950 --> 01:30:00,239
don't see it so much as vindication as

2028
01:30:07,669 --> 01:30:04,960
much as now the real work begins because

2029
01:30:09,990 --> 01:30:07,679
in a year two five years from now if

2030
01:30:12,629 --> 01:30:10,000
we're not successful i'm afraid we're

2031
01:30:14,950 --> 01:30:12,639
going to have to point our fingers at us

2032
01:30:18,070 --> 01:30:14,960
yeah i agree i agree with that i agree

2033
01:30:18,950 --> 01:30:18,080
with that and uh uh real quick before

2034
01:30:20,950 --> 01:30:18,960
the break

2035
01:30:23,669 --> 01:30:20,960
what about conversations with your

2036
01:30:25,510 --> 01:30:23,679
family would would they talk ufos with

2037
01:30:27,910 --> 01:30:25,520
you in the past or they just leave you

2038
01:30:29,990 --> 01:30:27,920
alone and and now

2039
01:30:32,709 --> 01:30:30,000
do they want to talk about it

2040
01:30:34,870 --> 01:30:32,719
uh as we both have lost our dads yes my

2041
01:30:37,350 --> 01:30:34,880
dad was my biggest fan

2042
01:30:39,990 --> 01:30:37,360
he would take me aside every time i

2043
01:30:40,790 --> 01:30:40,000
would stop by he'd want to know

2044
01:30:43,030 --> 01:30:40,800
uh

2045
01:30:44,550 --> 01:30:43,040
what was new on the investigation

2046
01:30:47,669 --> 01:30:44,560
and at times

2047
01:30:49,830 --> 01:30:47,679
when i was wrestling with a witness

2048
01:30:51,350 --> 01:30:49,840
or if i needed a second opinion i could

2049
01:30:52,229 --> 01:30:51,360
take a long walk with him out in the

2050
01:30:54,070 --> 01:30:52,239
woods

2051
01:30:55,910 --> 01:30:54,080
and confide to him a hundred percent and

2052
01:30:58,470 --> 01:30:55,920
he would always advise me with his

2053
01:31:01,669 --> 01:30:58,480
military background and

2054
01:31:03,910 --> 01:31:01,679
the wisest man i have ever known and so

2055
01:31:07,030 --> 01:31:03,920
i love the fact that

2056
01:31:10,229 --> 01:31:07,040
it wasn't just father and son he was

2057
01:31:12,149 --> 01:31:10,239
truly interested in the subject we made

2058
01:31:15,189 --> 01:31:12,159
sure he got down the roswell he got down

2059
01:31:17,590 --> 01:31:15,199
to the museum before he died he loved it

2060
01:31:19,990 --> 01:31:17,600
and i'd like to i'd like to think that

2061
01:31:22,149 --> 01:31:20,000
he is still you know in the background

2062
01:31:25,030 --> 01:31:22,159
going don now finish it

2063
01:31:26,390 --> 01:31:25,040
wow i can only imagine uh you don't have

2064
01:31:29,350 --> 01:31:26,400
to respond to this we're going to take a

2065
01:31:31,990 --> 01:31:29,360
break but i i know the level of respect

2066
01:31:34,629 --> 01:31:32,000
uh that you have in roswell that must

2067
01:31:36,550 --> 01:31:34,639
have been extended to your dad he must

2068
01:31:38,550 --> 01:31:36,560
oh four percent hundred percent they

2069
01:31:40,550 --> 01:31:38,560
love them there i love them

2070
01:31:42,790 --> 01:31:40,560
i can only imagine this is fade to black

2071
01:31:45,189 --> 01:31:42,800
i'm real jimmy church tonight don

2072
01:31:46,070 --> 01:31:45,199
schmidt when we come back i'm gonna ask

2073
01:31:48,790 --> 01:31:46,080
don

2074
01:31:50,950 --> 01:31:48,800
how do we keep that pressure on

2075
01:31:52,390 --> 01:31:50,960
that's the biggest question that uh

2076
01:31:53,830 --> 01:31:52,400
that needs to be answered tonight we'll

2077
01:32:00,100 --> 01:31:53,840
get to all of that after this short

2078
01:32:00,110 --> 01:32:10,709
[Music]

2079
01:32:15,970 --> 01:32:13,830
way out here we listen to jimmy church

2080
01:32:18,629 --> 01:32:15,980
you're listening to fade to black

2081
01:32:20,790 --> 01:32:18,639
[Applause]

2082
01:32:22,310 --> 01:32:20,800
you're listening to jimmy church and

2083
01:32:27,330 --> 01:32:22,320
fade to black

2084
01:32:27,340 --> 01:32:39,030
[Applause]

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01:32:44,390 --> 01:32:41,430
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2086
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invite you to the 2022 conscious life

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2151
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2153
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jimmy church this is revolution the

2154
01:35:48,470 --> 01:35:45,199
revolution will not be televised the

2155
01:35:53,070 --> 01:35:48,480
revolution is on radio

2156
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[Music]

2157
01:36:35,109 --> 01:36:33,350
welcome back fade to black i am your

2158
01:36:37,430 --> 01:36:35,119
host jimmy church tonight don schmidt is

2159
01:36:40,149 --> 01:36:37,440
with us tomorrow night chad caleb he's

2160
01:36:41,270 --> 01:36:40,159
got a new film out it is called 74

2161
01:36:42,950 --> 01:36:41,280
minutes

2162
01:36:45,750 --> 01:36:42,960
and then thursday night

2163
01:36:48,550 --> 01:36:45,760
linda moulton howe tonight don schmidt

2164
01:36:49,669 --> 01:36:48,560
now don right before the break uh where

2165
01:36:51,830 --> 01:36:49,679
we're

2166
01:36:54,550 --> 01:36:51,840
mentioning how to keep the pressure on i

2167
01:36:56,550 --> 01:36:54,560
want to ask you that directly uh i know

2168
01:36:58,790 --> 01:36:56,560
that we have to um

2169
01:37:00,550 --> 01:36:58,800
uh and and we'll get into that and then

2170
01:37:04,310 --> 01:37:00,560
there is also

2171
01:37:07,270 --> 01:37:04,320
uh the gillibrand uh amendment amendment

2172
01:37:09,590 --> 01:37:07,280
and the ndaa

2173
01:37:11,030 --> 01:37:09,600
that was uh just signed off uh by the

2174
01:37:11,910 --> 01:37:11,040
oval office

2175
01:37:15,669 --> 01:37:11,920
with

2176
01:37:20,390 --> 01:37:15,679
very specific words and paragraphs

2177
01:37:22,229 --> 01:37:20,400
about uap's crash recovery health

2178
01:37:25,030 --> 01:37:22,239
a lot of

2179
01:37:27,030 --> 01:37:25,040
various reporting sharing of information

2180
01:37:30,310 --> 01:37:27,040
between intelligence agencies and the

2181
01:37:34,709 --> 01:37:33,590
classified reports semi-annually to

2182
01:37:38,709 --> 01:37:34,719
congress

2183
01:37:40,229 --> 01:37:38,719
as well as a a public unclassified

2184
01:37:41,430 --> 01:37:40,239
version of this report that will be

2185
01:37:43,669 --> 01:37:41,440
annually

2186
01:37:45,430 --> 01:37:43,679
uh very interesting

2187
01:37:47,510 --> 01:37:45,440
is that part of keeping the pressure on

2188
01:37:49,669 --> 01:37:47,520
does that help us

2189
01:37:51,189 --> 01:37:49,679
but yes because again

2190
01:37:55,189 --> 01:37:51,199
this is

2191
01:37:57,669 --> 01:37:55,199
a a new battle plan on the part of

2192
01:37:59,590 --> 01:37:57,679
those on capitol hill

2193
01:38:02,470 --> 01:37:59,600
who at least

2194
01:38:04,709 --> 01:38:02,480
have uh realized that this has been

2195
01:38:06,790 --> 01:38:04,719
going on behind their backs

2196
01:38:09,350 --> 01:38:06,800
and as a result they come up with speed

2197
01:38:12,709 --> 01:38:09,360
and now they want the full

2198
01:38:15,109 --> 01:38:12,719
storyline they want as far as they have

2199
01:38:17,669 --> 01:38:15,119
access to the full picture

2200
01:38:20,070 --> 01:38:17,679
and i think because of that

2201
01:38:22,709 --> 01:38:20,080
there's a lot of catching up to do

2202
01:38:24,070 --> 01:38:22,719
my only concern is that just as in the

2203
01:38:27,270 --> 01:38:24,080
original

2204
01:38:29,189 --> 01:38:27,280
as far as june 2021 report

2205
01:38:32,390 --> 01:38:29,199
that they only acknowledge the phenomena

2206
01:38:35,430 --> 01:38:32,400
back to like 2004 right

2207
01:38:37,350 --> 01:38:35,440
and as a result i'm concerned that the

2208
01:38:40,790 --> 01:38:37,360
fall back still

2209
01:38:43,109 --> 01:38:40,800
could be russian or chinese

2210
01:38:44,629 --> 01:38:43,119
by not acknowledging the phenomenon all

2211
01:38:47,030 --> 01:38:44,639
the way back to the 40s well it's only a

2212
01:38:49,510 --> 01:38:47,040
threat now it was not a threat back in

2213
01:38:52,070 --> 01:38:49,520
the 40s and thereafter up till today

2214
01:38:54,149 --> 01:38:52,080
well we know that's nonsense and

2215
01:38:56,790 --> 01:38:54,159
especially when we consider

2216
01:39:01,109 --> 01:38:56,800
that now they're concerned about uh

2217
01:39:03,270 --> 01:39:01,119
nuclear as far as sac infiltrations uh

2218
01:39:06,070 --> 01:39:03,280
missile as far as

2219
01:39:08,070 --> 01:39:06,080
interruptions as far as uh shutdown of

2220
01:39:10,390 --> 01:39:08,080
atlas missiles for example but that all

2221
01:39:12,950 --> 01:39:10,400
happened back in the 60s

2222
01:39:15,270 --> 01:39:12,960
but they don't even acknowledge that

2223
01:39:17,510 --> 01:39:15,280
so i'd like to hear

2224
01:39:18,950 --> 01:39:17,520
that they are going to be bringing in

2225
01:39:21,109 --> 01:39:18,960
historians

2226
01:39:22,310 --> 01:39:21,119
people who will be able to demonstrate

2227
01:39:23,990 --> 01:39:22,320
to them

2228
01:39:26,629 --> 01:39:24,000
and brief them

2229
01:39:29,109 --> 01:39:26,639
totally on roswell for example and so

2230
01:39:32,390 --> 01:39:29,119
many of the best cases that all were

2231
01:39:34,790 --> 01:39:32,400
before 2004

2232
01:39:39,350 --> 01:39:34,800
and so they need to look at the big

2233
01:39:42,229 --> 01:39:39,360
picture because i'm afraid that

2234
01:39:43,910 --> 01:39:42,239
they still will always have just as they

2235
01:39:45,830 --> 01:39:43,920
did with roswell

2236
01:39:48,470 --> 01:39:45,840
just as they have demonstrated with

2237
01:39:50,149 --> 01:39:48,480
every incident that the military

2238
01:39:52,070 --> 01:39:50,159
has been involved with

2239
01:39:55,430 --> 01:39:52,080
that when they need a scapegoat when

2240
01:39:57,990 --> 01:39:55,440
they need and a plan b when they need an

2241
01:40:01,270 --> 01:39:58,000
alternative scenario

2242
01:40:03,669 --> 01:40:01,280
to present to the public

2243
01:40:05,430 --> 01:40:03,679
it's seldom is the truth

2244
01:40:08,629 --> 01:40:05,440
because with them it's basically just

2245
01:40:11,189 --> 01:40:08,639
protecting you know themselves staying

2246
01:40:14,310 --> 01:40:11,199
in office staying in control

2247
01:40:15,990 --> 01:40:14,320
and that's where

2248
01:40:20,070 --> 01:40:16,000
unless this is

2249
01:40:22,950 --> 01:40:20,080
as transparent as we would like it to be

2250
01:40:24,790 --> 01:40:22,960
as long as there remains classified

2251
01:40:28,070 --> 01:40:24,800
reports as long as there remains

2252
01:40:30,950 --> 01:40:28,080
classified briefings on the subject

2253
01:40:34,870 --> 01:40:30,960
we're never we're never going to be sure

2254
01:40:36,870 --> 01:40:34,880
what the public report discloses and how

2255
01:40:40,310 --> 01:40:36,880
how close it actually is

2256
01:40:42,390 --> 01:40:40,320
to the true situation and that's where

2257
01:40:45,189 --> 01:40:42,400
we have to again

2258
01:40:47,030 --> 01:40:45,199
take the ball and say we're not going

2259
01:40:49,030 --> 01:40:47,040
away

2260
01:40:51,350 --> 01:40:49,040
with anything less than congressional

2261
01:40:53,350 --> 01:40:51,360
hearings now this will be a first there

2262
01:40:55,430 --> 01:40:53,360
has always been a talk when gerald ford

2263
01:40:58,950 --> 01:40:55,440
was the congressman in michigan after

2264
01:41:01,109 --> 01:40:58,960
the dexter ann arbor sightings in 1966

2265
01:41:02,709 --> 01:41:01,119
and it was a push then for congressional

2266
01:41:04,550 --> 01:41:02,719
hearings

2267
01:41:06,229 --> 01:41:04,560
and there was a push for congressional

2268
01:41:08,629 --> 01:41:06,239
hearings a number of times thereafter

2269
01:41:10,709 --> 01:41:08,639
but it was only lip service

2270
01:41:12,470 --> 01:41:10,719
this is the first time that we could

2271
01:41:13,270 --> 01:41:12,480
actually say

2272
01:41:14,149 --> 01:41:13,280
that

2273
01:41:16,950 --> 01:41:14,159
okay

2274
01:41:19,830 --> 01:41:16,960
you're looking into it but you need to

2275
01:41:21,189 --> 01:41:19,840
actually speak with the eye witnesses

2276
01:41:22,550 --> 01:41:21,199
you mentioned the general accounting

2277
01:41:23,910 --> 01:41:22,560
office but congressman shift the

2278
01:41:26,070 --> 01:41:23,920
beginning of the show

2279
01:41:27,990 --> 01:41:26,080
and with roswell

2280
01:41:29,189 --> 01:41:28,000
well one of the

2281
01:41:31,990 --> 01:41:29,199
yes

2282
01:41:33,910 --> 01:41:32,000
areas of total investigative malpractice

2283
01:41:35,350 --> 01:41:33,920
was the fact that they didn't speak to a

2284
01:41:36,950 --> 01:41:35,360
single witness

2285
01:41:38,950 --> 01:41:36,960
it was no different than colonel richard

2286
01:41:41,430 --> 01:41:38,960
weaver with the with the air force's

2287
01:41:43,830 --> 01:41:41,440
report on project mogul but they didn't

2288
01:41:45,990 --> 01:41:43,840
talk to any of our witnesses

2289
01:41:49,030 --> 01:41:46,000
how can you conduct a murder

2290
01:41:50,550 --> 01:41:49,040
investigation without interviewing the

2291
01:41:52,550 --> 01:41:50,560
witnesses

2292
01:41:55,270 --> 01:41:52,560
and so we're saying okay you're

2293
01:41:58,149 --> 01:41:55,280
acknowledging the scene of a crime

2294
01:41:59,510 --> 01:41:58,159
now what where else are we going to get

2295
01:42:01,350 --> 01:41:59,520
information

2296
01:42:03,830 --> 01:42:01,360
that we can toss around and we can

2297
01:42:05,830 --> 01:42:03,840
debate and yet we still have to then

2298
01:42:07,990 --> 01:42:05,840
make a determination who's telling the

2299
01:42:10,310 --> 01:42:08,000
truth who isn't and see how the facts

2300
01:42:11,430 --> 01:42:10,320
all come together and then write those

2301
01:42:14,629 --> 01:42:11,440
reports

2302
01:42:16,790 --> 01:42:14,639
going to be nothing more than

2303
01:42:18,470 --> 01:42:16,800
high-ranking officers in the pentagon

2304
01:42:20,390 --> 01:42:18,480
who are going to just be spewing words

2305
01:42:22,830 --> 01:42:20,400
of what they want washington to believe

2306
01:42:26,870 --> 01:42:22,840
and nothing more i think there's also a

2307
01:42:28,950 --> 01:42:26,880
complacency that is occurring right now

2308
01:42:30,470 --> 01:42:28,960
in that uh

2309
01:42:31,830 --> 01:42:30,480
the community

2310
01:42:32,870 --> 01:42:31,840
is

2311
01:42:35,109 --> 01:42:32,880
thinking

2312
01:42:37,910 --> 01:42:35,119
that the government is going to

2313
01:42:42,390 --> 01:42:37,920
give up information

2314
01:42:45,430 --> 01:42:42,400
that's that's not our job our job is to

2315
01:42:47,109 --> 01:42:45,440
force them to give us

2316
01:42:50,070 --> 01:42:47,119
the information

2317
01:42:51,350 --> 01:42:50,080
if we just stop asking for it then

2318
01:42:53,590 --> 01:42:51,360
they're just going to think that the

2319
01:42:56,070 --> 01:42:53,600
battle is won and they're just going to

2320
01:42:57,830 --> 01:42:56,080
give us nothing exactly i mean let's

2321
01:43:00,629 --> 01:42:57,840
let's look at it this way

2322
01:43:02,390 --> 01:43:00,639
they have been deceiving

2323
01:43:05,030 --> 01:43:02,400
not only americans they've been

2324
01:43:07,350 --> 01:43:05,040
deceiving the world on this subject for

2325
01:43:08,709 --> 01:43:07,360
75 years they've been lying to

2326
01:43:11,350 --> 01:43:08,719
presidents

2327
01:43:14,550 --> 01:43:11,360
vice president senators congressmen

2328
01:43:16,629 --> 01:43:14,560
people who represent us

2329
01:43:20,149 --> 01:43:16,639
in in our daily lives

2330
01:43:22,629 --> 01:43:20,159
and indeed if this is a threat to

2331
01:43:26,390 --> 01:43:22,639
national security that's our national

2332
01:43:29,510 --> 01:43:26,400
security and as a result

2333
01:43:31,030 --> 01:43:29,520
all they're acknowledging is

2334
01:43:33,030 --> 01:43:31,040
they have no control over this

2335
01:43:35,910 --> 01:43:33,040
phenomenon they're able to fly through

2336
01:43:37,910 --> 01:43:35,920
our airspace with total impunity i i've

2337
01:43:39,990 --> 01:43:37,920
often said jimmy that it remains a

2338
01:43:41,750 --> 01:43:40,000
cover-up of ignorance that we still

2339
01:43:42,550 --> 01:43:41,760
don't know from where from who or from

2340
01:43:45,270 --> 01:43:42,560
why

2341
01:43:47,750 --> 01:43:45,280
and as a result they stall for time they

2342
01:43:51,030 --> 01:43:47,760
run out the clock they you know

2343
01:43:54,390 --> 01:43:51,040
hopefully you know the more they

2344
01:43:56,709 --> 01:43:54,400
they stand pat and pretend that they're

2345
01:43:59,750 --> 01:43:56,719
on it that they're working on it just

2346
01:44:02,070 --> 01:43:59,760
give us more time that we go away that

2347
01:44:03,109 --> 01:44:02,080
we become complacent apathetic as you

2348
01:44:03,830 --> 01:44:03,119
mentioned

2349
01:44:06,070 --> 01:44:03,840
and

2350
01:44:09,109 --> 01:44:06,080
that's where

2351
01:44:11,350 --> 01:44:09,119
as the ufo community has spent more time

2352
01:44:13,990 --> 01:44:11,360
pointing fingers at one another and the

2353
01:44:16,629 --> 01:44:14,000
the level of egos

2354
01:44:19,669 --> 01:44:16,639
and people taking credit

2355
01:44:20,790 --> 01:44:19,679
for others efforts and always this level

2356
01:44:23,510 --> 01:44:20,800
of petty

2357
01:44:25,430 --> 01:44:23,520
pettiness and jealousy as to

2358
01:44:27,189 --> 01:44:25,440
who's going to be in the race

2359
01:44:29,590 --> 01:44:27,199
well as i've often said it doesn't

2360
01:44:30,629 --> 01:44:29,600
matter who wins

2361
01:44:33,350 --> 01:44:30,639
the day

2362
01:44:35,109 --> 01:44:33,360
we all win if the truth finally comes

2363
01:44:37,590 --> 01:44:35,119
out it doesn't matter

2364
01:44:39,030 --> 01:44:37,600
who happened to win as far as cross that

2365
01:44:40,629 --> 01:44:39,040
finish line first

2366
01:44:42,790 --> 01:44:40,639
and that's where we have to whether

2367
01:44:45,510 --> 01:44:42,800
we're on the sidelines or whether we are

2368
01:44:47,430 --> 01:44:45,520
you're sprinting in that final 100 yards

2369
01:44:49,189 --> 01:44:47,440
we have to push like never before

2370
01:44:51,189 --> 01:44:49,199
because i don't believe that either in

2371
01:44:53,750 --> 01:44:51,199
your lifetime in my lifetime we're ever

2372
01:44:57,830 --> 01:44:53,760
going to have this opportunity again

2373
01:44:59,510 --> 01:44:57,840
when uh the uh june 25th the uap task

2374
01:45:01,350 --> 01:44:59,520
force report comes out

2375
01:45:03,910 --> 01:45:01,360
uh a very

2376
01:45:06,790 --> 01:45:03,920
a lot of interesting or and the lack of

2377
01:45:08,310 --> 01:45:06,800
interesting things there but one of the

2378
01:45:09,910 --> 01:45:08,320
points

2379
01:45:12,149 --> 01:45:09,920
was

2380
01:45:14,390 --> 01:45:12,159
we don't know

2381
01:45:16,790 --> 01:45:14,400
we don't have answers

2382
01:45:19,350 --> 01:45:16,800
and you just said we need the the who

2383
01:45:20,310 --> 01:45:19,360
what why now when where right we need we

2384
01:45:21,910 --> 01:45:20,320
need

2385
01:45:24,550 --> 01:45:21,920
do you think

2386
01:45:26,709 --> 01:45:24,560
that they have those answers

2387
01:45:28,950 --> 01:45:26,719
that they do you don't think they they

2388
01:45:31,750 --> 01:45:28,960
know the who and the what the where

2389
01:45:33,669 --> 01:45:31,760
no no no i think they they they long

2390
01:45:34,390 --> 01:45:33,679
they've known since roswell

2391
01:45:36,229 --> 01:45:34,400
that

2392
01:45:39,510 --> 01:45:36,239
we're dealing with

2393
01:45:41,350 --> 01:45:39,520
a uh an intelligence off the planet

2394
01:45:43,430 --> 01:45:41,360
that we're dealing with the technology

2395
01:45:45,430 --> 01:45:43,440
beyond our comprehension i mean when you

2396
01:45:47,910 --> 01:45:45,440
consider the human arrogance the idea

2397
01:45:50,550 --> 01:45:47,920
that we could bridge that technology i

2398
01:45:53,510 --> 01:45:50,560
think tracy tormey the screenwriter

2399
01:45:54,629 --> 01:45:53,520
a good friend of both of ours

2400
01:45:55,990 --> 01:45:54,639
you know i think he uses the best

2401
01:45:57,750 --> 01:45:56,000
analogy that you could take something as

2402
01:46:01,109 --> 01:45:57,760
simple as a toaster

2403
01:46:03,430 --> 01:46:01,119
and trans teleport it back into time say

2404
01:46:04,950 --> 01:46:03,440
back to the middle ages and they might

2405
01:46:07,590 --> 01:46:04,960
be able to take it apart put it back

2406
01:46:08,390 --> 01:46:07,600
together again but if you can't plug it

2407
01:46:12,149 --> 01:46:08,400
in

2408
01:46:14,229 --> 01:46:12,159
and the thought that just like will

2409
01:46:15,990 --> 01:46:14,239
smith independency that you can jump

2410
01:46:18,149 --> 01:46:16,000
into the seat of that ufo and you can

2411
01:46:20,550 --> 01:46:18,159
fly that thing like you've done it 100

2412
01:46:23,350 --> 01:46:20,560
times before you know that's our human

2413
01:46:25,669 --> 01:46:23,360
nature that we're still at the top

2414
01:46:27,990 --> 01:46:25,679
and i think that's the thing that has

2415
01:46:29,189 --> 01:46:28,000
rattled especially the powers that be at

2416
01:46:31,590 --> 01:46:29,199
the pentagon

2417
01:46:33,750 --> 01:46:31,600
more than ever before the idea that

2418
01:46:36,790 --> 01:46:33,760
they've worked on it all these years and

2419
01:46:39,350 --> 01:46:36,800
they still can't find the on button do

2420
01:46:40,790 --> 01:46:39,360
you do you think um

2421
01:46:42,709 --> 01:46:40,800
and i know you've done uh so much

2422
01:46:45,750 --> 01:46:42,719
research into this area

2423
01:46:48,550 --> 01:46:45,760
do you think that they did uh get

2424
01:46:51,510 --> 01:46:48,560
information from uh

2425
01:46:54,149 --> 01:46:51,520
an ebe at some point

2426
01:46:55,750 --> 01:46:54,159
uh as to the origins and and the star

2427
01:46:58,070 --> 01:46:55,760
systems uh

2428
01:47:00,629 --> 01:46:58,080
where these beings came from do you

2429
01:47:02,870 --> 01:47:00,639
think that they got that information

2430
01:47:05,189 --> 01:47:02,880
and if they should have provided such

2431
01:47:06,629 --> 01:47:05,199
information would have even

2432
01:47:08,149 --> 01:47:06,639
made sense to us

2433
01:47:11,590 --> 01:47:08,159
it would have been from their vantage

2434
01:47:13,910 --> 01:47:11,600
point how would they describe

2435
01:47:15,750 --> 01:47:13,920
as far as uh that we would be making

2436
01:47:17,910 --> 01:47:15,760
such a determination when they couldn't

2437
01:47:21,030 --> 01:47:17,920
provide us with a name

2438
01:47:22,310 --> 01:47:21,040
of another planetoid that uh we would

2439
01:47:24,310 --> 01:47:22,320
have recognized we haven't even

2440
01:47:27,669 --> 01:47:24,320
acknowledged or haven't even discovered

2441
01:47:29,030 --> 01:47:27,679
planets until the last you know 10 years

2442
01:47:31,270 --> 01:47:29,040
and so

2443
01:47:33,990 --> 01:47:31,280
to me it would almost be almost like

2444
01:47:36,709 --> 01:47:34,000
biblical in nature that for the people

2445
01:47:38,870 --> 01:47:36,719
of you know biblical times how would you

2446
01:47:40,950 --> 01:47:38,880
describe a planet

2447
01:47:45,030 --> 01:47:40,960
and a solar system when you didn't know

2448
01:47:45,910 --> 01:47:45,040
what was across the dead sea for example

2449
01:47:48,470 --> 01:47:45,920
so

2450
01:47:52,070 --> 01:47:48,480
i'm not going to discount it i mean i

2451
01:47:55,510 --> 01:47:52,080
hope and i i i i honestly admit that we

2452
01:47:58,070 --> 01:47:55,520
have had witnesses who have suggested

2453
01:48:00,229 --> 01:47:58,080
that with the survivor at roswell that

2454
01:48:01,510 --> 01:48:00,239
certainly there was an attempt to

2455
01:48:04,229 --> 01:48:01,520
communicate

2456
01:48:06,470 --> 01:48:04,239
there were witnesses who suggested to us

2457
01:48:10,550 --> 01:48:06,480
that there was a telepathic

2458
01:48:13,109 --> 01:48:10,560
mind to mind form of communication

2459
01:48:16,310 --> 01:48:13,119
and i guess it came down to

2460
01:48:19,189 --> 01:48:16,320
was any of the information

2461
01:48:20,950 --> 01:48:19,199
reliable was it anything beyond just

2462
01:48:22,790 --> 01:48:20,960
i'll give you my rank number you know

2463
01:48:25,750 --> 01:48:22,800
and serial number that type of thing

2464
01:48:27,910 --> 01:48:25,760
name and serial number or

2465
01:48:31,030 --> 01:48:27,920
have we been schooled

2466
01:48:33,270 --> 01:48:31,040
now the ancient astronaut you know

2467
01:48:35,510 --> 01:48:33,280
uh investigators the researchers would

2468
01:48:38,790 --> 01:48:35,520
suggest that we've long had a helping

2469
01:48:40,229 --> 01:48:38,800
hand that we've long had guidance from

2470
01:48:42,550 --> 01:48:40,239
above

2471
01:48:44,310 --> 01:48:42,560
and i i don't have any reason to doubt

2472
01:48:46,390 --> 01:48:44,320
that i think that truly has been the

2473
01:48:48,550 --> 01:48:46,400
case my god the egyptians were

2474
01:48:50,629 --> 01:48:48,560
performing brain surgery

2475
01:48:52,390 --> 01:48:50,639
six five thousand years ago and the

2476
01:48:53,750 --> 01:48:52,400
people lived

2477
01:48:56,229 --> 01:48:53,760
so

2478
01:48:59,189 --> 01:48:56,239
i saw it's funny that you bring that up

2479
01:49:01,590 --> 01:48:59,199
i just watched uh the most recent

2480
01:49:02,870 --> 01:49:01,600
documentary on that geo

2481
01:49:06,470 --> 01:49:02,880
and uh

2482
01:49:09,990 --> 01:49:06,480
uh uh some recent tombs that were

2483
01:49:12,149 --> 01:49:10,000
uh discovered in 2021 you know it's the

2484
01:49:13,510 --> 01:49:12,159
most recent documentary is released uh

2485
01:49:14,550 --> 01:49:13,520
last week the week before and i'm

2486
01:49:17,669 --> 01:49:14,560
watching it

2487
01:49:20,229 --> 01:49:17,679
and one of yeah this is the point that

2488
01:49:22,229 --> 01:49:20,239
they brought up so they they they pick

2489
01:49:24,070 --> 01:49:22,239
up this skull

2490
01:49:25,589 --> 01:49:24,080
and uh uh

2491
01:49:27,189 --> 01:49:25,599
of a

2492
01:49:29,270 --> 01:49:27,199
female

2493
01:49:33,589 --> 01:49:29,280
with a drill hole

2494
01:49:35,030 --> 01:49:33,599
right above the eye right this clean

2495
01:49:35,990 --> 01:49:35,040
perfect

2496
01:49:37,589 --> 01:49:36,000
hole

2497
01:49:39,030 --> 01:49:37,599
in the skull

2498
01:49:40,950 --> 01:49:39,040
and

2499
01:49:43,750 --> 01:49:40,960
the anthropologist you know says right

2500
01:49:44,790 --> 01:49:43,760
there the archaeologist holding them

2501
01:49:47,350 --> 01:49:44,800
this is

2502
01:49:49,830 --> 01:49:47,360
brain surgery

2503
01:49:53,270 --> 01:49:49,840
4500 years ago

2504
01:49:54,830 --> 01:49:53,280
and now think about that for a second

2505
01:49:59,189 --> 01:49:54,840
the rest of the

2506
01:50:00,629 --> 01:49:59,199
rome is still 2 000 years in the future

2507
01:50:04,470 --> 01:50:00,639
right right

2508
01:50:07,589 --> 01:50:04,480
greece is 2 000 year plato is not going

2509
01:50:09,189 --> 01:50:07,599
to hang out for another 2200

2510
01:50:11,270 --> 01:50:09,199
years

2511
01:50:13,750 --> 01:50:11,280
the rest of the world is living in mud

2512
01:50:17,430 --> 01:50:16,149
and they're doing brain surgery on the

2513
01:50:20,149 --> 01:50:17,440
nile

2514
01:50:21,990 --> 01:50:20,159
that's crazy to me crazy it is crazy but

2515
01:50:25,030 --> 01:50:22,000
yet it's irrefutable

2516
01:50:29,189 --> 01:50:25,040
i mean those uh examples and they healed

2517
01:50:32,950 --> 01:50:31,510
and so

2518
01:50:35,669 --> 01:50:32,960
they had help

2519
01:50:36,629 --> 01:50:35,679
and

2520
01:50:38,709 --> 01:50:36,639
i guess

2521
01:50:39,990 --> 01:50:38,719
it comes back to are we dealing with the

2522
01:50:40,790 --> 01:50:40,000
same

2523
01:50:43,669 --> 01:50:40,800
uh

2524
01:50:46,070 --> 01:50:43,679
race species visitors the same species

2525
01:50:48,229 --> 01:50:46,080
right that type of thing or

2526
01:50:50,149 --> 01:50:48,239
uh you know i really like the galactic

2527
01:50:53,350 --> 01:50:50,159
zoo that they're just there's a

2528
01:50:55,189 --> 01:50:53,360
curiosity they're passing by now and uh

2529
01:50:56,950 --> 01:50:55,199
they can take us or leave us i've often

2530
01:51:00,310 --> 01:50:56,960
commented that the phenomenon is more

2531
01:51:01,910 --> 01:51:00,320
indifferent to us than we'd like because

2532
01:51:04,470 --> 01:51:01,920
they haven't you know

2533
01:51:06,870 --> 01:51:04,480
saved us they haven't taken away nuclear

2534
01:51:09,189 --> 01:51:06,880
weapons they haven't uh told us like

2535
01:51:11,030 --> 01:51:09,199
platoon the day the earth stood still

2536
01:51:13,510 --> 01:51:11,040
that we better stop it otherwise they

2537
01:51:15,430 --> 01:51:13,520
will come and stop us that type of thing

2538
01:51:17,430 --> 01:51:15,440
there hasn't been the proverbial landing

2539
01:51:19,189 --> 01:51:17,440
on the white house front lawn you know

2540
01:51:22,149 --> 01:51:19,199
we're here to help you take us to your

2541
01:51:25,910 --> 01:51:22,159
leader type of thing and so because the

2542
01:51:28,149 --> 01:51:25,920
phenomena itself remains that elusive

2543
01:51:29,430 --> 01:51:28,159
and i think that is still the most

2544
01:51:30,310 --> 01:51:29,440
foreboding

2545
01:51:32,709 --> 01:51:30,320
uh

2546
01:51:34,950 --> 01:51:32,719
situation in that even

2547
01:51:37,030 --> 01:51:34,960
with disclosure even with such an

2548
01:51:39,030 --> 01:51:37,040
announcement is it still going to be a

2549
01:51:41,350 --> 01:51:39,040
case of the served man

2550
01:51:44,070 --> 01:51:41,360
you know twilight zoning you know are we

2551
01:51:45,830 --> 01:51:44,080
able would we ever able ever be able to

2552
01:51:47,750 --> 01:51:45,840
truly trust

2553
01:51:49,589 --> 01:51:47,760
a higher intelligence

2554
01:51:51,990 --> 01:51:49,599
given our own track record like the

2555
01:51:53,510 --> 01:51:52,000
brookings institute in 1960 when they

2556
01:51:56,390 --> 01:51:53,520
conducted that study where they

2557
01:51:57,589 --> 01:51:56,400
demonstrated uh nasa contr contracted

2558
01:51:59,750 --> 01:51:57,599
them as far as they report they went to

2559
01:52:01,669 --> 01:51:59,760
congress and demonstrated that each and

2560
01:52:03,990 --> 01:52:01,679
every time that a higher intelligence

2561
01:52:05,910 --> 01:52:04,000
has made contact with a lower whether by

2562
01:52:08,709 --> 01:52:05,920
influence whether by contact whether by

2563
01:52:10,629 --> 01:52:08,719
conquest it has eliminated the lower and

2564
01:52:13,030 --> 01:52:10,639
that they strongly advise that they

2565
01:52:16,550 --> 01:52:13,040
should not acknowledge that there may be

2566
01:52:19,589 --> 01:52:16,560
ets out there so the white

2567
01:52:21,830 --> 01:52:19,599
e.t steps off that saucer i already i

2568
01:52:24,950 --> 01:52:21,840
know exactly what they're going to say

2569
01:52:26,390 --> 01:52:24,960
i've thought about this for a long time

2570
01:52:27,510 --> 01:52:26,400
they're not going to say take me to your

2571
01:52:29,109 --> 01:52:27,520
leader

2572
01:52:32,070 --> 01:52:29,119
they're going to say

2573
01:52:34,709 --> 01:52:32,080
where's down schmidt

2574
01:52:37,830 --> 01:52:34,719
where's the schmidt guy

2575
01:52:40,629 --> 01:52:37,840
we need to set schmidt straight uh the

2576
01:52:43,030 --> 01:52:40,639
um uh the other the

2577
01:52:44,709 --> 01:52:43,040
back to your point though

2578
01:52:47,270 --> 01:52:44,719
40 billion

2579
01:52:49,350 --> 01:52:47,280
earth-like rocky planets in the

2580
01:52:51,669 --> 01:52:49,360
goldilocks zone

2581
01:52:53,669 --> 01:52:51,679
just in our milky way

2582
01:52:54,470 --> 01:52:53,679
40 billion

2583
01:52:56,790 --> 01:52:54,480
now

2584
01:52:57,750 --> 01:52:56,800
i would think and it's just a numbers

2585
01:52:58,470 --> 01:52:57,760
game

2586
01:52:59,270 --> 01:52:58,480
that

2587
01:53:01,030 --> 01:52:59,280
uh

2588
01:53:03,669 --> 01:53:01,040
they have been out there

2589
01:53:05,910 --> 01:53:03,679
discovering planets like earth

2590
01:53:09,109 --> 01:53:05,920
for a billion years

2591
01:53:10,629 --> 01:53:09,119
and they found a lot of it and they've

2592
01:53:12,950 --> 01:53:10,639
made contact

2593
01:53:16,229 --> 01:53:12,960
i agree with you

2594
01:53:18,550 --> 01:53:16,239
we might be mundane

2595
01:53:21,270 --> 01:53:18,560
what's exciting i it's a beautiful blue

2596
01:53:23,830 --> 01:53:21,280
planet i love that it's it's perfect

2597
01:53:26,629 --> 01:53:23,840
pictures are gorgeous i mean it is

2598
01:53:28,709 --> 01:53:26,639
it is beautiful the wisconsin dells

2599
01:53:30,390 --> 01:53:28,719
right we got that but

2600
01:53:32,950 --> 01:53:30,400
but don

2601
01:53:35,109 --> 01:53:32,960
what sets us apart from the other

2602
01:53:37,589 --> 01:53:35,119
billions of civilizations that they've

2603
01:53:39,589 --> 01:53:37,599
made contact with

2604
01:53:41,510 --> 01:53:39,599
you know what i mean and

2605
01:53:43,350 --> 01:53:41,520
it's uh

2606
01:53:45,510 --> 01:53:43,360
there are probably thousands of

2607
01:53:47,669 --> 01:53:45,520
civilizations that that visit this

2608
01:53:49,589 --> 01:53:47,679
planet and that have known about us but

2609
01:53:52,310 --> 01:53:49,599
there's also a lot of other action

2610
01:53:54,070 --> 01:53:52,320
that's going on out there i guess

2611
01:53:56,310 --> 01:53:54,080
and i guess the one thing that may set

2612
01:53:57,990 --> 01:53:56,320
us apart and our our late dear friend

2613
01:54:00,070 --> 01:53:58,000
stanton friedman

2614
01:54:02,070 --> 01:54:00,080
often would comment that just imagine

2615
01:54:04,390 --> 01:54:02,080
any intelligence

2616
01:54:06,790 --> 01:54:04,400
observing us on a regular basis

2617
01:54:08,070 --> 01:54:06,800
monitoring our daily broadcast radio

2618
01:54:10,310 --> 01:54:08,080
television that type of thing what's the

2619
01:54:11,910 --> 01:54:10,320
predominant theme that would come across

2620
01:54:14,950 --> 01:54:11,920
24 7

2621
01:54:15,990 --> 01:54:14,960
that we're a barbaric primitive race of

2622
01:54:19,189 --> 01:54:16,000
people

2623
01:54:22,310 --> 01:54:19,199
who just you know are are consistent

2624
01:54:23,430 --> 01:54:22,320
preoccupation is tribal warfare

2625
01:54:25,270 --> 01:54:23,440
so

2626
01:54:26,790 --> 01:54:25,280
what would our first reaction be well

2627
01:54:28,390 --> 01:54:26,800
we've demonstrated that you land on the

2628
01:54:29,910 --> 01:54:28,400
white house front lawn first thing we're

2629
01:54:31,669 --> 01:54:29,920
going to do is surround you with tanks

2630
01:54:33,189 --> 01:54:31,679
and guns and chances that we're going to

2631
01:54:33,910 --> 01:54:33,199
shoot you before you even get off the

2632
01:54:35,589 --> 01:54:33,920
ship

2633
01:54:37,589 --> 01:54:35,599
so

2634
01:54:39,910 --> 01:54:37,599
i guess we may be

2635
01:54:43,189 --> 01:54:39,920
one of those you know those like

2636
01:54:44,390 --> 01:54:43,199
galactic you know doctorate thesis to

2637
01:54:46,310 --> 01:54:44,400
see

2638
01:54:49,510 --> 01:54:46,320
are we ever going to mature are we ever

2639
01:54:52,470 --> 01:54:49,520
going to grow out of this notion that

2640
01:54:54,070 --> 01:54:52,480
i'm threatened by your existence i know

2641
01:54:56,229 --> 01:54:54,080
you're threatened by mine and as a

2642
01:54:57,669 --> 01:54:56,239
result i'm going to strike first

2643
01:55:00,709 --> 01:54:57,679
and in the meantime we might as well

2644
01:55:02,310 --> 01:55:00,719
just get along but again stay awful you

2645
01:55:03,910 --> 01:55:02,320
know stay out of my territory don't

2646
01:55:05,589 --> 01:55:03,920
encroach on me you know that type of

2647
01:55:07,189 --> 01:55:05,599
thing so

2648
01:55:09,510 --> 01:55:07,199
you're not just talking countries not

2649
01:55:11,030 --> 01:55:09,520
just talking about even athletics and

2650
01:55:13,750 --> 01:55:11,040
competition you're talking about even

2651
01:55:15,030 --> 01:55:13,760
within families so it's like are we

2652
01:55:17,030 --> 01:55:15,040
unique

2653
01:55:21,350 --> 01:55:17,040
you know within the entire

2654
01:55:22,149 --> 01:55:21,360
galaxy that damn it here we co-exist on

2655
01:55:27,910 --> 01:55:22,159
this

2656
01:55:31,510 --> 01:55:27,920
with a finite amount of water and oxygen

2657
01:55:33,189 --> 01:55:31,520
and food and as a reason and as a result

2658
01:55:35,189 --> 01:55:33,199
we still

2659
01:55:36,310 --> 01:55:35,199
are constantly trying to kill one

2660
01:55:39,109 --> 01:55:36,320
another

2661
01:55:40,870 --> 01:55:39,119
there is an island off the co the west

2662
01:55:44,229 --> 01:55:40,880
coast of india

2663
01:55:45,589 --> 01:55:44,239
that uh internationally laws are in

2664
01:55:46,629 --> 01:55:45,599
place

2665
01:55:53,430 --> 01:55:46,639
that

2666
01:55:56,470 --> 01:55:53,440
has never made human contact there are

2667
01:55:59,589 --> 01:55:56,480
specific laws no planes no ships no

2668
01:56:02,310 --> 01:55:59,599
nothing you cannot go near it no human

2669
01:56:03,109 --> 01:56:02,320
contact allowed and they've adhered to

2670
01:56:08,629 --> 01:56:03,119
that

2671
01:56:09,990 --> 01:56:08,639
about you and i they have no idea about

2672
01:56:14,149 --> 01:56:10,000
anything but

2673
01:56:16,390 --> 01:56:14,159
uh five years ago tropical storm massive

2674
01:56:17,750 --> 01:56:16,400
rolls through the area and goes directly

2675
01:56:19,830 --> 01:56:17,760
over the island

2676
01:56:21,109 --> 01:56:19,840
and so the prime minister of india goes

2677
01:56:22,950 --> 01:56:21,119
you know what

2678
01:56:24,950 --> 01:56:22,960
we need to check on the tribe

2679
01:56:27,189 --> 01:56:24,960
so let's just fly a helicopter over the

2680
01:56:29,109 --> 01:56:27,199
island and just make sure that

2681
01:56:31,350 --> 01:56:29,119
everything is okay you know what

2682
01:56:33,030 --> 01:56:31,360
happened they never saw a helicopter

2683
01:56:34,149 --> 01:56:33,040
they've never seen any you know what

2684
01:56:37,350 --> 01:56:34,159
they did

2685
01:56:53,270 --> 01:56:39,189
shot arrows at a helicopter they've

2686
01:56:57,750 --> 01:56:55,030
and that's a true story that actually

2687
01:56:59,030 --> 01:56:57,760
happened yes yes yes

2688
01:57:01,990 --> 01:56:59,040
so

2689
01:57:04,629 --> 01:57:02,000
primitive

2690
01:57:06,629 --> 01:57:04,639
of as far as species here on planet

2691
01:57:09,270 --> 01:57:06,639
earth to those who would like to think

2692
01:57:11,750 --> 01:57:09,280
like the late carl sagan who would often

2693
01:57:14,229 --> 01:57:11,760
comment that well certainly if there was

2694
01:57:17,430 --> 01:57:14,239
an intelligence visiting planet earth

2695
01:57:20,149 --> 01:57:17,440
they would come and see me first

2696
01:57:22,470 --> 01:57:20,159
as though you know he was the you know

2697
01:57:25,109 --> 01:57:22,480
the emissary that he was you know

2698
01:57:26,709 --> 01:57:25,119
representing you know all of us here

2699
01:57:27,669 --> 01:57:26,719
on this blue sphere

2700
01:57:29,030 --> 01:57:27,679
and

2701
01:57:31,430 --> 01:57:29,040
that's the type of thing that they would

2702
01:57:34,390 --> 01:57:31,440
probably sit back and they would go my

2703
01:57:36,229 --> 01:57:34,400
my there's a level of arrogance on that

2704
01:57:37,669 --> 01:57:36,239
planet that let's hope it's not

2705
01:57:39,189 --> 01:57:37,679
contagious

2706
01:57:42,390 --> 01:57:39,199
who would

2707
01:57:43,350 --> 01:57:42,400
talking about that the other night on

2708
01:57:45,350 --> 01:57:43,360
the show

2709
01:57:46,790 --> 01:57:45,360
i kind of threw richard dolan's hat in

2710
01:57:49,910 --> 01:57:46,800
the ring

2711
01:57:50,709 --> 01:57:49,920
in in jest but he would be pretty good

2712
01:57:53,430 --> 01:57:50,719
but

2713
01:57:55,109 --> 01:57:53,440
who would best represent us

2714
01:57:57,350 --> 01:57:55,119
i mean what do we do do we go with a

2715
01:57:59,910 --> 01:57:57,360
religious leader do we go within every

2716
01:58:02,950 --> 01:57:59,920
man and every woman

2717
01:58:04,790 --> 01:58:02,960
uh do we draw names

2718
01:58:07,510 --> 01:58:04,800
is there a lottery

2719
01:58:09,430 --> 01:58:07,520
uh do we go with a politician who would

2720
01:58:12,550 --> 01:58:09,440
who would best represent us

2721
01:58:15,750 --> 01:58:12,560
and then we'd have to ask why do they

2722
01:58:18,550 --> 01:58:15,760
they you know in quotes select the

2723
01:58:19,830 --> 01:58:18,560
people they do is it happenstance are

2724
01:58:23,189 --> 01:58:19,840
these people that they've been

2725
01:58:24,870 --> 01:58:23,199
monitoring observing for possibly years

2726
01:58:26,790 --> 01:58:24,880
even generations

2727
01:58:28,950 --> 01:58:26,800
and as a result

2728
01:58:30,390 --> 01:58:28,960
you know maybe they know something well

2729
01:58:32,629 --> 01:58:30,400
beyond you know

2730
01:58:34,629 --> 01:58:32,639
as far as those who we would just

2731
01:58:37,270 --> 01:58:34,639
automatically select just because maybe

2732
01:58:40,229 --> 01:58:37,280
they're the richest people in the world

2733
01:58:41,910 --> 01:58:40,239
uh or as you mentioned like the pope for

2734
01:58:43,510 --> 01:58:41,920
example or

2735
01:58:44,870 --> 01:58:43,520
why don't we have a collective meeting

2736
01:58:46,870 --> 01:58:44,880
at the u.n

2737
01:58:48,390 --> 01:58:46,880
and uh where

2738
01:58:51,189 --> 01:58:48,400
you know they can send their own

2739
01:58:53,430 --> 01:58:51,199
ambassador in and they can you know you

2740
01:58:55,990 --> 01:58:53,440
know announce their presence and their

2741
01:58:58,470 --> 01:58:56,000
intentions you know on the floor of the

2742
01:59:00,870 --> 01:58:58,480
the general assembly

2743
01:59:03,109 --> 01:59:00,880
it's it's interesting i i like to see

2744
01:59:05,750 --> 01:59:03,119
you know someone

2745
01:59:07,189 --> 01:59:05,760
actually write a work of fiction as to

2746
01:59:10,229 --> 01:59:07,199
how something like that might even

2747
01:59:12,550 --> 01:59:10,239
happen how it might transpire because i

2748
01:59:15,430 --> 01:59:12,560
think it's uncharted it's it's something

2749
01:59:18,629 --> 01:59:15,440
that we we contemplate but it's a good

2750
01:59:20,629 --> 01:59:18,639
question who would represent us

2751
01:59:22,310 --> 01:59:20,639
who would we trust

2752
01:59:24,870 --> 01:59:22,320
to you know

2753
01:59:27,669 --> 01:59:24,880
uh represent our best interests

2754
01:59:30,550 --> 01:59:27,679
in an honest way in an honest way in an

2755
01:59:32,070 --> 01:59:30,560
honest way and it's like yeah let me

2756
01:59:34,470 --> 01:59:32,080
take you aside jimmy here yeah we're

2757
01:59:37,589 --> 01:59:34,480
really here to conquer you know this

2758
01:59:40,229 --> 01:59:37,599
planet but we'll let you live if you run

2759
01:59:41,669 --> 01:59:40,239
you know you you blindside you know you

2760
01:59:43,030 --> 01:59:41,679
you run interference force you know

2761
01:59:44,950 --> 01:59:43,040
jimmy you know you can have you're going

2762
01:59:47,270 --> 01:59:44,960
to have the hawaiian islands they're all

2763
01:59:48,950 --> 01:59:47,280
yours but you got to side with us type

2764
01:59:50,790 --> 01:59:48,960
of thing yeah yeah how would you trust

2765
01:59:53,350 --> 01:59:50,800
how would you trust them and how would

2766
01:59:55,030 --> 01:59:53,360
you trust one of our own i would sell

2767
01:59:57,510 --> 01:59:55,040
you out in a second i would just say

2768
02:00:00,550 --> 01:59:57,520
take down schmidt yeah take me yeah take

2769
02:00:02,629 --> 02:00:00,560
take down schmidt um but uh

2770
02:00:05,750 --> 02:00:02,639
one of the things i got a couple minutes

2771
02:00:09,030 --> 02:00:05,760
before the break that i have heard over

2772
02:00:10,470 --> 02:00:09,040
and over again from contactees and

2773
02:00:12,629 --> 02:00:10,480
abductees

2774
02:00:15,030 --> 02:00:12,639
um you know from whitley street debbie

2775
02:00:16,629 --> 02:00:15,040
cobble for instance and she's she's just

2776
02:00:18,550 --> 02:00:16,639
absolutely amazing

2777
02:00:20,550 --> 02:00:18,560
but

2778
02:00:22,709 --> 02:00:20,560
where they are left

2779
02:00:26,870 --> 02:00:22,719
with the why me

2780
02:00:30,790 --> 02:00:26,880
why why why me why am i put through this

2781
02:00:34,790 --> 02:00:30,800
and my family everything around me has

2782
02:00:36,790 --> 02:00:34,800
to come along for this ride why me

2783
02:00:39,430 --> 02:00:36,800
and then as you have linda melton howell

2784
02:00:41,030 --> 02:00:39,440
on in a couple nights and as she has

2785
02:00:43,750 --> 02:00:41,040
suggested that

2786
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we may be perceived as nothing more than

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vessels

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that we are used

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for

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uh

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supplementing their own

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soul

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02:00:57,910 --> 02:00:55,840
yeah yeah yeah containers again we're

2794
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being harvested

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and

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02:01:04,950 --> 02:01:01,520
again

2797
02:01:06,870 --> 02:01:04,960
there is also science fiction

2798
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that would suggest that you look at the

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history of man humankind

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and whether it be art

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music

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02:01:17,589 --> 02:01:16,159
architecture what we have accomplished

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02:01:20,870 --> 02:01:17,599
what we've accomplished just here in

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02:01:25,109 --> 02:01:20,880
america in just a couple hundred years

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02:01:27,750 --> 02:01:25,119
and that it would be such a total waste

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to even a galactic neighborhood

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to treat us any less than well maybe

2808
02:01:34,709 --> 02:01:32,639
we're in first grade maybe we still have

2809
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a long ways to go

2810
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but

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we show a lot of promise we show a lot

2812
02:01:44,390 --> 02:01:40,480
of potential and i think

2813
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when you examine what we can do when we

2814
02:01:48,310 --> 02:01:46,560
do set our minds to it

2815
02:01:51,589 --> 02:01:48,320
i'd like to believe that very often

2816
02:01:53,750 --> 02:01:51,599
we've demonstrated that collectively we

2817
02:01:56,790 --> 02:01:53,760
can solve most any problem

2818
02:01:59,830 --> 02:01:56,800
we just have to you know get off of you

2819
02:02:03,109 --> 02:01:59,840
know the own ego trips that too many of

2820
02:02:05,830 --> 02:02:03,119
us are on and just get it done and

2821
02:02:08,390 --> 02:02:05,840
getting back to even what we need to do

2822
02:02:10,310 --> 02:02:08,400
we can debate and talk about what we

2823
02:02:13,510 --> 02:02:10,320
need to do in the future in the short

2824
02:02:15,990 --> 02:02:13,520
run through 2022 on this subject so

2825
02:02:17,589 --> 02:02:16,000
we're blue in the face but it won't get

2826
02:02:20,470 --> 02:02:17,599
it done

2827
02:02:25,030 --> 02:02:20,480
we have to do it we have to actually

2828
02:02:27,189 --> 02:02:25,040
speak up discuss make plans and then

2829
02:02:29,350 --> 02:02:27,199
set deadlines this is what we're going

2830
02:02:31,430 --> 02:02:29,360
to do by june is what we're going to do

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02:02:33,589 --> 02:02:31,440
by the end of the year and actually plan

2832
02:02:35,109 --> 02:02:33,599
in the next year and the next year and

2833
02:02:36,709 --> 02:02:35,119
keep it going

2834
02:02:38,149 --> 02:02:36,719
let's take our break right here i think

2835
02:02:40,070 --> 02:02:38,159
we should organize i've been talking

2836
02:02:43,830 --> 02:02:40,080
about this for a year now

2837
02:02:47,030 --> 02:02:43,840
we need to do a million ufo march

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i'm serious and you're the perfect rebel

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to lead that one

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yeah we'll be right back after this

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short break more with don schmidt when

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we come back stay with us

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periods of time you can see them flying

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or running across the floor

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2946
02:07:58,310 --> 02:07:56,560
welcome back fade to black i am your

2947
02:08:01,270 --> 02:07:58,320
host jimmy church tonight don schmidt is

2948
02:08:04,709 --> 02:08:01,280
with us we're talking about 2022

2949
02:08:06,550 --> 02:08:04,719
and uh the conversation spirited yes and

2950
02:08:09,910 --> 02:08:06,560
i always expect that

2951
02:08:12,390 --> 02:08:09,920
but don uh you brought up a really good

2952
02:08:13,430 --> 02:08:12,400
point and that is congressional hearings

2953
02:08:26,310 --> 02:08:13,440
and

2954
02:08:29,510 --> 02:08:26,320
not only uh the the pilot but the radar

2955
02:08:31,589 --> 02:08:29,520
operators and and uh the other crew

2956
02:08:33,430 --> 02:08:31,599
members that were involved with this and

2957
02:08:35,589 --> 02:08:33,440
potentially and i get that as a

2958
02:08:37,669 --> 02:08:35,599
professional witness but

2959
02:08:40,229 --> 02:08:37,679
how do we

2960
02:08:43,830 --> 02:08:40,239
select and get

2961
02:08:46,470 --> 02:08:43,840
the civilian testimony up in front of

2962
02:08:48,470 --> 02:08:46,480
congress i mean i've had a sighting

2963
02:08:50,470 --> 02:08:48,480
with multiple witnesses i think that

2964
02:08:53,910 --> 02:08:50,480
congress needs to hear about the beer

2965
02:08:56,950 --> 02:08:53,920
can ufo that that we saw and disappeared

2966
02:08:59,830 --> 02:08:56,960
in the sky our good friend steve murillo

2967
02:09:01,510 --> 02:08:59,840
uh was sitting next to me uh along with

2968
02:09:02,470 --> 02:09:01,520
30 other people and we all saw this

2969
02:09:04,870 --> 02:09:02,480
together

2970
02:09:06,830 --> 02:09:04,880
um uh

2971
02:09:08,790 --> 02:09:06,840
we need the

2972
02:09:11,109 --> 02:09:08,800
others

2973
02:09:13,189 --> 02:09:11,119
to get up in front of congress too as

2974
02:09:15,350 --> 02:09:13,199
well how do we select that

2975
02:09:17,189 --> 02:09:15,360
i think it's very important

2976
02:09:18,950 --> 02:09:17,199
exactly i would agree and i think it'd

2977
02:09:21,430 --> 02:09:18,960
be as simple as just going back through

2978
02:09:24,149 --> 02:09:21,440
the unclassified blue book files

2979
02:09:26,470 --> 02:09:24,159
and especially those where those

2980
02:09:29,109 --> 02:09:26,480
witnesses are still with us

2981
02:09:31,350 --> 02:09:29,119
they may be in their 70s and 80s but

2982
02:09:34,550 --> 02:09:31,360
nonetheless they still were involved in

2983
02:09:36,870 --> 02:09:34,560
some very profound you know events

2984
02:09:38,149 --> 02:09:36,880
that they would have one final

2985
02:09:38,950 --> 02:09:38,159
opportunity

2986
02:09:46,629 --> 02:09:38,960
to

2987
02:09:47,990 --> 02:09:46,639
and restraints of being in the service

2988
02:09:50,870 --> 02:09:48,000
at that time

2989
02:09:52,629 --> 02:09:50,880
and so i think there would be just an

2990
02:09:55,109 --> 02:09:52,639
unending pool

2991
02:09:57,189 --> 02:09:55,119
of material information i think is our

2992
02:09:59,430 --> 02:09:57,199
good friend steve bassett in determining

2993
02:10:02,790 --> 02:09:59,440
who would testify at the citizens

2994
02:10:04,790 --> 02:10:02,800
hearings in washington in 2013 that he

2995
02:10:06,229 --> 02:10:04,800
still had to

2996
02:10:07,430 --> 02:10:06,239
restrict and

2997
02:10:09,589 --> 02:10:07,440
and limit

2998
02:10:12,470 --> 02:10:09,599
you know based on the amount of days

2999
02:10:14,709 --> 02:10:12,480
that were available so if congress were

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02:10:17,589 --> 02:10:14,719
to set up you know hearings you know i'm

3001
02:10:20,470 --> 02:10:17,599
sure they would dictate precisely the

3002
02:10:23,189 --> 02:10:20,480
the the the amount of time that they

3003
02:10:25,589 --> 02:10:23,199
feel would be necessary but i think at

3004
02:10:28,069 --> 02:10:25,599
that point we should demonstrate that

3005
02:10:30,149 --> 02:10:28,079
this is just the tip of the iceberg you

3006
02:10:32,550 --> 02:10:30,159
can have hearings for a full week we can

3007
02:10:34,629 --> 02:10:32,560
give you witnesses for a full year it's

3008
02:10:37,350 --> 02:10:34,639
just a matter of just how much is it

3009
02:10:39,669 --> 02:10:37,360
going to take to finally convince you

3010
02:10:41,270 --> 02:10:39,679
that the phenomenon is real that we

3011
02:10:44,069 --> 02:10:41,280
haven't been working on this for all

3012
02:10:46,709 --> 02:10:44,079
these years because we're just hobbyists

3013
02:10:49,669 --> 02:10:46,719
we're just enthusiasts don't you like it

3014
02:10:51,510 --> 02:10:49,679
jimmy that now we're no longer ufo buffs

3015
02:10:54,229 --> 02:10:51,520
we're now enthusiasts yeah we're

3016
02:10:57,589 --> 02:10:54,239
enthusiasts yeah we're enthusiasts so

3017
02:10:59,589 --> 02:10:57,599
what about uh uh you know we have japan

3018
02:11:02,310 --> 02:10:59,599
airlines

3019
02:11:05,430 --> 02:11:02,320
you know uh wasn't in blue book uh japan

3020
02:11:07,270 --> 02:11:05,440
airlines we have uh randall shim john

3021
02:11:08,870 --> 02:11:07,280
burroughs is right there jim pennison's

3022
02:11:11,589 --> 02:11:08,880
right there colonel holt

3023
02:11:14,149 --> 02:11:11,599
halt is is is right there

3024
02:11:17,109 --> 02:11:14,159
again it falls back in the military side

3025
02:11:19,589 --> 02:11:17,119
of things but it certainly predates 2004

3026
02:11:22,229 --> 02:11:19,599
we have phoenix lights we have yes one

3027
02:11:24,629 --> 02:11:22,239
of the cases that i feel is especially

3028
02:11:25,750 --> 02:11:24,639
relevant is the the o'hare

3029
02:11:28,310 --> 02:11:25,760
yes

3030
02:11:31,109 --> 02:11:28,320
and the fact that united airlines placed

3031
02:11:32,790 --> 02:11:31,119
a gag order on all of their personnel at

3032
02:11:35,189 --> 02:11:32,800
that time so one of the things that

3033
02:11:38,310 --> 02:11:35,199
we're going after right now and we're

3034
02:11:41,510 --> 02:11:38,320
working with united pilots now many of

3035
02:11:44,550 --> 02:11:41,520
these personnel these pilots are retired

3036
02:11:47,510 --> 02:11:44,560
so we're hoping that we can get them to

3037
02:11:48,790 --> 02:11:47,520
now testify go on the record and i think

3038
02:11:51,109 --> 02:11:48,800
that's where i'm going with all this

3039
02:11:54,229 --> 02:11:51,119
jimmy that we we can't expect the

3040
02:11:55,430 --> 02:11:54,239
government to ever do what we anticipate

3041
02:11:57,589 --> 02:11:55,440
i think that's

3042
02:11:59,510 --> 02:11:57,599
again that's our problem that we always

3043
02:12:00,950 --> 02:11:59,520
expect them to do the right thing and

3044
02:12:03,510 --> 02:12:00,960
they sell them do

3045
02:12:05,990 --> 02:12:03,520
they do what's best for themselves

3046
02:12:08,550 --> 02:12:06,000
and it's mainly either in campaign mode

3047
02:12:10,629 --> 02:12:08,560
getting re-elected what do you i think

3048
02:12:14,390 --> 02:12:10,639
do you think i have to jump in and

3049
02:12:16,390 --> 02:12:14,400
interrupt don schmidt i apologize

3050
02:12:18,629 --> 02:12:16,400
do you think that it will i don't do

3051
02:12:20,950 --> 02:12:18,639
politics on the show i will do the

3052
02:12:21,830 --> 02:12:20,960
conspiracy of politics though

3053
02:12:27,669 --> 02:12:21,840
um

3054
02:12:33,990 --> 02:12:29,270
letters

3055
02:12:37,669 --> 02:12:34,000
will be a campaign issue in 2022

3056
02:12:41,589 --> 02:12:37,679
yes and for the first time without fear

3057
02:12:43,750 --> 02:12:41,599
of reprisal or ridicule we remember

3058
02:12:45,990 --> 02:12:43,760
more recently when

3059
02:12:47,910 --> 02:12:46,000
dennis kucinich

3060
02:12:49,189 --> 02:12:47,920
merely just brought the fact that he had

3061
02:12:50,310 --> 02:12:49,199
a sighting

3062
02:12:51,669 --> 02:12:50,320
and

3063
02:12:55,589 --> 02:12:51,679
killed his

3064
02:12:57,910 --> 02:12:55,599
his uh campaign practically overnight

3065
02:12:59,990 --> 02:12:57,920
and it was mainly it wasn't the public

3066
02:13:01,589 --> 02:13:00,000
it was the media yeah

3067
02:13:03,750 --> 02:13:01,599
and i think that's why

3068
02:13:05,030 --> 02:13:03,760
the mainstream media

3069
02:13:06,550 --> 02:13:05,040
has to

3070
02:13:09,510 --> 02:13:06,560
make an effort

3071
02:13:11,270 --> 02:13:09,520
beyond even the government in that

3072
02:13:12,870 --> 02:13:11,280
if there's any

3073
02:13:14,390 --> 02:13:12,880
profession that can hold them to the

3074
02:13:16,629 --> 02:13:14,400
fire

3075
02:13:19,830 --> 02:13:16,639
it's the tucker carlson's

3076
02:13:22,709 --> 02:13:19,840
it's the jake tappers at cnn it's uh as

3077
02:13:24,709 --> 02:13:22,719
far as cbs nbc and so on

3078
02:13:26,470 --> 02:13:24,719
and the thing is

3079
02:13:28,310 --> 02:13:26,480
we see that they're still just sticking

3080
02:13:29,510 --> 02:13:28,320
a toll in the water

3081
02:13:30,629 --> 02:13:29,520
they want to see where this is going to

3082
02:13:31,350 --> 02:13:30,639
go

3083
02:13:34,390 --> 02:13:31,360
but

3084
02:13:37,510 --> 02:13:34,400
i i'd like to actually i'm confident

3085
02:13:40,229 --> 02:13:37,520
that once they see it take off

3086
02:13:41,270 --> 02:13:40,239
and if they don't get the answers that

3087
02:13:42,310 --> 02:13:41,280
they

3088
02:13:44,790 --> 02:13:42,320
expect

3089
02:13:45,990 --> 02:13:44,800
from official dumb then who are they

3090
02:13:49,270 --> 02:13:46,000
going to go to

3091
02:13:52,950 --> 02:13:49,280
that's when we have to be ready we have

3092
02:13:56,709 --> 02:13:52,960
to be prepared we have to have material

3093
02:13:59,189 --> 02:13:56,719
that we can brief them on and

3094
02:14:02,550 --> 02:13:59,199
steer them just as the egyptians may

3095
02:14:04,870 --> 02:14:02,560
have been getting a helping hand 5000

3096
02:14:06,069 --> 02:14:04,880
years ago we need to be at the ready

3097
02:14:09,510 --> 02:14:06,079
today

3098
02:14:11,270 --> 02:14:09,520
because we can't expect the media to do

3099
02:14:13,510 --> 02:14:11,280
this overnight

3100
02:14:15,830 --> 02:14:13,520
we we know this jimmy i mean you do this

3101
02:14:19,430 --> 02:14:15,840
show five nights a week it's as

3102
02:14:22,709 --> 02:14:19,440
complicated and all encompassing as any

3103
02:14:25,510 --> 02:14:22,719
and more than most if not all

3104
02:14:27,990 --> 02:14:25,520
because it is that complicated because

3105
02:14:29,750 --> 02:14:28,000
we're dealing we're chasing phantoms

3106
02:14:32,310 --> 02:14:29,760
we're chasing the unknown to the point

3107
02:14:34,550 --> 02:14:32,320
that it's not like we expect to find

3108
02:14:36,149 --> 02:14:34,560
them in some warehouse someplace no

3109
02:14:38,149 --> 02:14:36,159
they're out there

3110
02:14:39,990 --> 02:14:38,159
but granted roswell could make it easy

3111
02:14:41,430 --> 02:14:40,000
but then

3112
02:14:44,149 --> 02:14:41,440
you'd have to determine where everything

3113
02:14:46,390 --> 02:14:44,159
is store it away today okay fine but the

3114
02:14:47,910 --> 02:14:46,400
point being the phenomenon still remains

3115
02:14:50,069 --> 02:14:47,920
so elusive

3116
02:14:53,510 --> 02:14:50,079
that it's just a fleeting you know

3117
02:14:54,550 --> 02:14:53,520
glimpse of what we believe

3118
02:14:56,550 --> 02:14:54,560
is really

3119
02:14:58,950 --> 02:14:56,560
out there and we don't know we don't

3120
02:15:02,470 --> 02:14:58,960
have those answers so we can't expect

3121
02:15:04,950 --> 02:15:02,480
the media to just take charge and march

3122
02:15:07,270 --> 02:15:04,960
in to the oval office and say

3123
02:15:09,669 --> 02:15:07,280
we're here to get the full story there

3124
02:15:11,750 --> 02:15:09,679
is no full story we're going to get this

3125
02:15:14,310 --> 02:15:11,760
in trickles we're going to

3126
02:15:16,470 --> 02:15:14,320
you know this is going to occasionally

3127
02:15:17,830 --> 02:15:16,480
leak out but one of the other areas that

3128
02:15:19,109 --> 02:15:17,840
i think we need to

3129
02:15:21,109 --> 02:15:19,119
prepare for

3130
02:15:23,189 --> 02:15:21,119
is that what if they don't have

3131
02:15:25,669 --> 02:15:23,199
congressional hearings

3132
02:15:27,910 --> 02:15:25,679
well we need to put together a legal

3133
02:15:31,030 --> 02:15:27,920
team we need to put together lawyers who

3134
02:15:32,870 --> 02:15:31,040
are willing to represent whistleblowers

3135
02:15:35,109 --> 02:15:32,880
provide them with counts to provide them

3136
02:15:38,149 --> 02:15:35,119
with protection as attorney danny

3137
02:15:41,270 --> 02:15:38,159
sheehan did it for the late dr john mack

3138
02:15:43,189 --> 02:15:41,280
at harvard that we need to put a team

3139
02:15:46,310 --> 02:15:43,199
together we need to bring lawyers in

3140
02:15:48,950 --> 02:15:46,320
that would work pro bono and just if you

3141
02:15:51,430 --> 02:15:48,960
have a ufo encounter

3142
02:15:53,430 --> 02:15:51,440
that you would risk you know loss of

3143
02:15:56,390 --> 02:15:53,440
your pension and benefits

3144
02:15:58,709 --> 02:15:56,400
then let's sit down and let's see

3145
02:16:01,430 --> 02:15:58,719
what muscle we could apply

3146
02:16:03,109 --> 02:16:01,440
as far as in a courtroom to pry

3147
02:16:05,669 --> 02:16:03,119
information loose

3148
02:16:07,430 --> 02:16:05,679
so this is the big game right we always

3149
02:16:10,069 --> 02:16:07,440
say we're playing hardball with the big

3150
02:16:11,109 --> 02:16:10,079
boys well the big boys have gotten on to

3151
02:16:13,350 --> 02:16:11,119
the field

3152
02:16:15,589 --> 02:16:13,360
and are we ready i mean i would ask

3153
02:16:18,709 --> 02:16:15,599
every one of my colleagues this is no

3154
02:16:21,350 --> 02:16:18,719
longer just reading fairy tales stories

3155
02:16:25,109 --> 02:16:21,360
late at night this is what we've all

3156
02:16:26,870 --> 02:16:25,119
been hoping would happen someday and now

3157
02:16:29,109 --> 02:16:26,880
are we ready

3158
02:16:30,950 --> 02:16:29,119
it seems like we're right on the edge

3159
02:16:32,389 --> 02:16:30,960
and and i speak about this every night

3160
02:16:33,509 --> 02:16:32,399
on the air and thank you for pointing

3161
02:16:35,990 --> 02:16:33,519
that out

3162
02:16:38,469 --> 02:16:36,000
um because i've seen the ebb and flow

3163
02:16:39,990 --> 02:16:38,479
too in the years that i've been in

3164
02:16:43,429 --> 02:16:40,000
broadcast

3165
02:16:45,429 --> 02:16:43,439
and i've i'm definitely seeing this

3166
02:16:47,270 --> 02:16:45,439
swing the other way but what i think is

3167
02:16:50,950 --> 02:16:47,280
most important here

3168
02:16:54,070 --> 02:16:50,960
is that there is for the first time

3169
02:16:57,509 --> 02:16:54,080
there's like a ufo constituency

3170
02:16:59,589 --> 02:16:57,519
it's it you know this is something that

3171
02:17:04,309 --> 02:16:59,599
is is tangible

3172
02:17:06,389 --> 02:17:04,319
it is real and it is a subject that

3173
02:17:08,150 --> 02:17:06,399
needs to be confronted head on now and

3174
02:17:09,190 --> 02:17:08,160
it needs to be dealt with it can no

3175
02:17:11,750 --> 02:17:09,200
longer

3176
02:17:13,669 --> 02:17:11,760
uh be considered fringe and swept under

3177
02:17:16,389 --> 02:17:13,679
the rug and ignore it there's nothing to

3178
02:17:18,230 --> 02:17:16,399
see here that worked in the past it's

3179
02:17:20,230 --> 02:17:18,240
not working now

3180
02:17:21,990 --> 02:17:20,240
and it seems to me

3181
02:17:23,990 --> 02:17:22,000
uh i don't want to bring up hillary

3182
02:17:25,270 --> 02:17:24,000
clinton but i'm going to

3183
02:17:28,230 --> 02:17:25,280
hillary

3184
02:17:31,910 --> 02:17:28,240
when she was on the campaign trail uh

3185
02:17:35,990 --> 02:17:31,920
with uh then president trump uh uh who

3186
02:17:39,030 --> 02:17:36,000
was uh uh a candidate trump i should say

3187
02:17:40,790 --> 02:17:39,040
she brought up ufos a few times on the

3188
02:17:43,429 --> 02:17:40,800
campaign trail

3189
02:17:44,389 --> 02:17:43,439
making it a campaign issue

3190
02:17:48,389 --> 02:17:44,399
and

3191
02:17:49,429 --> 02:17:48,399
what i thought was going to happen i

3192
02:17:51,429 --> 02:17:49,439
thought that

3193
02:17:52,629 --> 02:17:51,439
then candidate trump would also do the

3194
02:17:54,629 --> 02:17:52,639
same thing

3195
02:17:58,070 --> 02:17:54,639
you know that this would now be a

3196
02:17:59,990 --> 02:17:58,080
campaign issue well that was uh quite a

3197
02:18:02,549 --> 02:18:00,000
while ago now that was four and a half

3198
02:18:03,589 --> 02:18:02,559
five years ago today it's a different

3199
02:18:07,030 --> 02:18:03,599
story

3200
02:18:08,790 --> 02:18:07,040
and with gillibrand uh with marco rubio

3201
02:18:13,830 --> 02:18:08,800
and others

3202
02:18:16,629 --> 02:18:13,840
a campaign issue

3203
02:18:17,669 --> 02:18:16,639
and uh you need to get the ufo lobby

3204
02:18:18,790 --> 02:18:17,679
together

3205
02:18:20,389 --> 02:18:18,800
and and

3206
02:18:21,270 --> 02:18:20,399
and bring this out

3207
02:18:25,030 --> 02:18:21,280
and

3208
02:18:26,790 --> 02:18:25,040
exactly the situation we're in

3209
02:18:28,870 --> 02:18:26,800
because

3210
02:18:32,549 --> 02:18:28,880
it isn't just a very gold water it isn't

3211
02:18:33,830 --> 02:18:32,559
just a a steep shift

3212
02:18:35,270 --> 02:18:33,840
and

3213
02:18:36,389 --> 02:18:35,280
just imagine

3214
02:18:41,830 --> 02:18:36,399
when

3215
02:18:44,790 --> 02:18:41,840
on roswell if he would have had support

3216
02:18:46,389 --> 02:18:44,800
now we've heard that dianne feinstein

3217
02:18:47,429 --> 02:18:46,399
california

3218
02:18:52,790 --> 02:18:47,439
had

3219
02:18:55,190 --> 02:18:52,800
conversations with him that if they

3220
02:18:56,070 --> 02:18:55,200
would have found a kink in the armor

3221
02:18:57,910 --> 02:18:56,080
that

3222
02:19:00,629 --> 02:18:57,920
he could count on her

3223
02:19:01,990 --> 02:19:00,639
to uh you know step step

3224
02:19:03,830 --> 02:19:02,000
to his side

3225
02:19:07,910 --> 02:19:03,840
i'd like to believe that

3226
02:19:09,910 --> 02:19:07,920
but we have that lobby right i mean

3227
02:19:12,309 --> 02:19:09,920
today as you describe

3228
02:19:13,910 --> 02:19:12,319
and this again is unprecedented we

3229
02:19:16,469 --> 02:19:13,920
haven't had this before and you

3230
02:19:18,309 --> 02:19:16,479
mentioned president trump

3231
02:19:21,349 --> 02:19:18,319
and unless we forget

3232
02:19:22,469 --> 02:19:21,359
it was the last father's day

3233
02:19:24,790 --> 02:19:22,479
interview

3234
02:19:25,910 --> 02:19:24,800
that his son don jr

3235
02:19:28,070 --> 02:19:25,920
did

3236
02:19:29,990 --> 02:19:28,080
and what was the very last question he

3237
02:19:31,750 --> 02:19:30,000
asked his dad

3238
02:19:33,270 --> 02:19:31,760
are you ufos real

3239
02:19:34,950 --> 02:19:33,280
yeah no no are you gonna open the

3240
02:19:38,070 --> 02:19:34,960
roswell fire oh yeah or you can open the

3241
02:19:41,030 --> 02:19:38,080
raspberry files so there again just as

3242
02:19:42,070 --> 02:19:41,040
jimmy carter just as bill clinton i mean

3243
02:19:43,910 --> 02:19:42,080
uh

3244
02:19:45,030 --> 02:19:43,920
brock

3245
02:19:47,669 --> 02:19:45,040
obama

3246
02:19:51,110 --> 02:19:47,679
was in roswell on two occasions

3247
02:19:53,030 --> 02:19:51,120
and made comment about he knew what

3248
02:19:54,790 --> 02:19:53,040
allegedly happened there

3249
02:19:55,910 --> 02:19:54,800
when he was when he got off the plane

3250
02:19:57,670 --> 02:19:55,920
that was the first thing that he

3251
02:19:59,670 --> 02:19:57,680
commented about

3252
02:20:02,070 --> 02:19:59,680
and it was no there's never been any

3253
02:20:03,990 --> 02:20:02,080
remark from even the presidents that

3254
02:20:05,110 --> 02:20:04,000
well it's just a weather balloon let's

3255
02:20:06,950 --> 02:20:05,120
not even

3256
02:20:09,510 --> 02:20:06,960
waste our time with this

3257
02:20:11,590 --> 02:20:09,520
but don jr asks his father you know are

3258
02:20:13,270 --> 02:20:11,600
you gonna open the files

3259
02:20:14,630 --> 02:20:13,280
and his father makes the comment you

3260
02:20:17,030 --> 02:20:14,640
know uh

3261
02:20:19,510 --> 02:20:17,040
that i know millions of people go there

3262
02:20:22,150 --> 02:20:19,520
well he was i mean this is the deal

3263
02:20:24,230 --> 02:20:22,160
though uh let's back up i read between

3264
02:20:26,070 --> 02:20:24,240
the lines on that when i heard it

3265
02:20:30,469 --> 02:20:26,080
um

3266
02:20:32,550 --> 02:20:30,479
facebook

3267
02:20:36,469 --> 02:20:32,560
trump was thinking about what was going

3268
02:20:38,790 --> 02:20:36,479
on was the storm area 51 campaign

3269
02:20:39,590 --> 02:20:38,800
and that's what uh so

3270
02:20:41,990 --> 02:20:39,600
but

3271
02:20:44,389 --> 02:20:42,000
i i found it just as interesting

3272
02:20:46,469 --> 02:20:44,399
but trump was referring to

3273
02:20:51,270 --> 02:20:46,479
area 51

3274
02:20:53,190 --> 02:20:51,280
there's millions of people that

3275
02:20:56,710 --> 02:20:53,200
that's what he was referring to what was

3276
02:20:58,630 --> 02:20:56,720
interesting about that was he knew

3277
02:21:00,070 --> 02:20:58,640
he knew about the subject he knew about

3278
02:21:02,469 --> 02:21:00,080
area 51

3279
02:21:04,870 --> 02:21:02,479
he confused roswell with that in the

3280
02:21:08,469 --> 02:21:04,880
moment but nonetheless

3281
02:21:10,389 --> 02:21:08,479
he he was referring to ufos and and area

3282
02:21:12,389 --> 02:21:10,399
51 and then he made another comment

3283
02:21:14,790 --> 02:21:12,399
though don if you remember

3284
02:21:17,349 --> 02:21:14,800
he said that i know that the pilots have

3285
02:21:22,309 --> 02:21:17,359
seen some interesting things

3286
02:21:23,990 --> 02:21:22,319
yes but i i don't necessarily believe

3287
02:21:25,270 --> 02:21:24,000
that they are e.t

3288
02:21:28,070 --> 02:21:25,280
that they're et that they're off the

3289
02:21:29,910 --> 02:21:28,080
planet right right right and that's

3290
02:21:31,990 --> 02:21:29,920
and and the question would be

3291
02:21:34,070 --> 02:21:32,000
what does the president really know what

3292
02:21:35,830 --> 02:21:34,080
does the president really know was he of

3293
02:21:37,349 --> 02:21:35,840
you know of all presidents even briefed

3294
02:21:38,790 --> 02:21:37,359
on the subject right

3295
02:21:40,389 --> 02:21:38,800
especially if he felt that he would be a

3296
02:21:41,110 --> 02:21:40,399
loose cannon that they couldn't trust

3297
02:21:43,270 --> 02:21:41,120
him

3298
02:21:45,349 --> 02:21:43,280
um

3299
02:21:47,990 --> 02:21:45,359
yeah i agree with that

3300
02:21:50,230 --> 02:21:48,000
again i don't do politics on this show i

3301
02:21:52,630 --> 02:21:50,240
don't i always have to uh

3302
02:21:55,110 --> 02:21:52,640
uh have my disclaimer there

3303
02:21:57,750 --> 02:21:55,120
but i'll say this

3304
02:22:00,550 --> 02:21:57,760
i felt in my bones

3305
02:22:01,510 --> 02:22:00,560
that if that information was given to

3306
02:22:03,910 --> 02:22:01,520
trump

3307
02:22:05,670 --> 02:22:03,920
he would have tweeted it out

3308
02:22:07,670 --> 02:22:05,680
i'm serious

3309
02:22:09,510 --> 02:22:07,680
and you make a good point jimmy in that

3310
02:22:11,590 --> 02:22:09,520
where

3311
02:22:13,030 --> 02:22:11,600
he's credited with releasing thousands

3312
02:22:14,550 --> 02:22:13,040
of new documents on the kennedy

3313
02:22:16,950 --> 02:22:14,560
assassination

3314
02:22:18,950 --> 02:22:16,960
then he also

3315
02:22:20,150 --> 02:22:18,960
decided not to

3316
02:22:23,830 --> 02:22:20,160
release

3317
02:22:25,830 --> 02:22:23,840
thousands of additional documents

3318
02:22:27,990 --> 02:22:25,840
so he made that call

3319
02:22:29,590 --> 02:22:28,000
so

3320
02:22:32,710 --> 02:22:29,600
yeah i know it's tough it's it's it's

3321
02:22:34,230 --> 02:22:32,720
interesting because

3322
02:22:37,750 --> 02:22:34,240
it still comes down to who's pulling the

3323
02:22:38,550 --> 02:22:37,760
strings well if if you're if you're if

3324
02:22:42,950 --> 02:22:38,560
you're

3325
02:22:45,590 --> 02:22:42,960
of the united states

3326
02:22:47,429 --> 02:22:45,600
and you are

3327
02:22:49,349 --> 02:22:47,439
ready in

3328
02:22:51,030 --> 02:22:49,359
to the knowledge of e.t

3329
02:22:52,630 --> 02:22:51,040
right and if we are alone in the

3330
02:22:55,510 --> 02:22:52,640
universe or not and

3331
02:22:57,590 --> 02:22:55,520
this information is exposed to you

3332
02:22:59,190 --> 02:22:57,600
i would suspect

3333
02:23:01,830 --> 02:22:59,200
as president

3334
02:23:03,190 --> 02:23:01,840
you would lie about that

3335
02:23:07,750 --> 02:23:03,200
till

3336
02:23:10,790 --> 02:23:07,760
i i really i really believe that i don't

3337
02:23:13,190 --> 02:23:10,800
think that a president would

3338
02:23:15,670 --> 02:23:13,200
do that unless he was forced to you know

3339
02:23:16,550 --> 02:23:15,680
was siding over los angeles or whatever

3340
02:23:20,990 --> 02:23:16,560
but

3341
02:23:23,349 --> 02:23:21,000
i would think that the

3342
02:23:25,190 --> 02:23:23,359
commander-in-chief would lie about that

3343
02:23:26,230 --> 02:23:25,200
forever and that includes obama and

3344
02:23:29,750 --> 02:23:26,240
clinton

3345
02:23:32,870 --> 02:23:29,760
and and reagan and ford and carter who

3346
02:23:36,550 --> 02:23:32,880
am i leaving out a bush or two

3347
02:23:41,510 --> 02:23:38,309
they're gonna lie about it

3348
02:23:43,910 --> 02:23:41,520
and i i believe that i i i truly

3349
02:23:45,510 --> 02:23:43,920
honestly believe that they would lie

3350
02:23:47,910 --> 02:23:45,520
about it forever

3351
02:23:50,630 --> 02:23:47,920
and keeping in mind too that and getting

3352
02:23:52,469 --> 02:23:50,640
back to trump that it was

3353
02:23:55,590 --> 02:23:52,479
don jr

3354
02:23:57,590 --> 02:23:55,600
who specifically brought up roswell

3355
02:24:01,270 --> 02:23:57,600
he didn't bring up area 51 no he brought

3356
02:24:02,790 --> 02:24:01,280
up roswell he brought up roswell and so

3357
02:24:05,830 --> 02:24:02,800
one of the things that we're looking at

3358
02:24:08,710 --> 02:24:05,840
right now is do we need to

3359
02:24:10,630 --> 02:24:08,720
and i've talked to even the the mayor of

3360
02:24:12,710 --> 02:24:10,640
roswell mayor kintai

3361
02:24:15,270 --> 02:24:12,720
about well why don't we send a personal

3362
02:24:16,790 --> 02:24:15,280
letter to don jr

3363
02:24:18,790 --> 02:24:16,800
and just see

3364
02:24:20,469 --> 02:24:18,800
where it will go

3365
02:24:22,469 --> 02:24:20,479
if we could get

3366
02:24:25,590 --> 02:24:22,479
the former president to come to roswell

3367
02:24:29,190 --> 02:24:25,600
some of the words let's again

3368
02:24:30,230 --> 02:24:29,200
keep upping the ante politics aside

3369
02:24:32,389 --> 02:24:30,240
because

3370
02:24:35,030 --> 02:24:32,399
as we've just been discussing we've been

3371
02:24:37,590 --> 02:24:35,040
naming republicans and democrats and

3372
02:24:39,110 --> 02:24:37,600
it's across the board that there's this

3373
02:24:41,349 --> 02:24:39,120
mutual interest

3374
02:24:43,270 --> 02:24:41,359
that something is going on that

3375
02:24:44,630 --> 02:24:43,280
something there's something more

3376
02:24:46,550 --> 02:24:44,640
there

3377
02:24:48,790 --> 02:24:46,560
and whether

3378
02:24:50,710 --> 02:24:48,800
the last time that bill clinton was on a

3379
02:24:52,870 --> 02:24:50,720
jimmy kimmel show

3380
02:24:54,710 --> 02:24:52,880
and they talked about this again

3381
02:24:56,710 --> 02:24:54,720
and when ben hansen

3382
02:24:58,630 --> 02:24:56,720
you know with his fbi

3383
02:25:00,469 --> 02:24:58,640
expertise

3384
02:25:01,990 --> 02:25:00,479
and did the

3385
02:25:04,710 --> 02:25:02,000
body

3386
02:25:07,349 --> 02:25:04,720
language yes analysis

3387
02:25:08,550 --> 02:25:07,359
and how clinton was very jovial and very

3388
02:25:11,349 --> 02:25:08,560
social

3389
02:25:13,590 --> 02:25:11,359
until the subject of ufos and roswell

3390
02:25:15,590 --> 02:25:13,600
came up and all at once he's clenching

3391
02:25:18,630 --> 02:25:15,600
his jaw and he's digging his fingers

3392
02:25:21,510 --> 02:25:18,640
into the armrest and he's clearly very

3393
02:25:24,950 --> 02:25:21,520
agitated and the way ben concluded it's

3394
02:25:26,230 --> 02:25:24,960
either a case of he knows the truth

3395
02:25:29,030 --> 02:25:26,240
but he

3396
02:25:31,990 --> 02:25:29,040
he he wouldn't dare

3397
02:25:34,070 --> 02:25:32,000
this disclose it to the public or

3398
02:25:35,510 --> 02:25:34,080
i had eight years in the oval office and

3399
02:25:37,910 --> 02:25:35,520
i blew it

3400
02:25:42,469 --> 02:25:37,920
the only chance i had to actually get to

3401
02:25:45,670 --> 02:25:42,479
the truth and i blew it i didn't do it

3402
02:25:47,270 --> 02:25:45,680
and so the point being there's a there

3403
02:25:48,790 --> 02:25:47,280
there

3404
02:25:51,830 --> 02:25:48,800
the presidents

3405
02:25:54,630 --> 02:25:51,840
the others within the washington

3406
02:25:56,710 --> 02:25:54,640
establishment are demonstrating the late

3407
02:25:59,030 --> 02:25:56,720
you know senator harry reid now

3408
02:26:01,830 --> 02:25:59,040
i'd like to believe that he had some

3409
02:26:03,429 --> 02:26:01,840
closure i would love to believe that he

3410
02:26:04,870 --> 02:26:03,439
was taken aside

3411
02:26:07,670 --> 02:26:04,880
months ago

3412
02:26:09,750 --> 02:26:07,680
and given as far as some

3413
02:26:12,790 --> 02:26:09,760
final word

3414
02:26:15,750 --> 02:26:12,800
as to what at least we knew

3415
02:26:17,429 --> 02:26:15,760
unlike what dr jalen heineck had after

3416
02:26:19,590 --> 02:26:17,439
he was at the moffitt clinic in san

3417
02:26:21,110 --> 02:26:19,600
francisco and they removed the brain

3418
02:26:23,750 --> 02:26:21,120
tumor

3419
02:26:25,910 --> 02:26:23,760
and this was at six months before he

3420
02:26:28,630 --> 02:26:25,920
died and when he was in the recovery

3421
02:26:31,349 --> 02:26:28,640
room and he was tossing and turning and

3422
02:26:33,670 --> 02:26:31,359
he kept saying over and over again

3423
02:26:36,389 --> 02:26:33,680
why can't they tell me why can't they

3424
02:26:38,790 --> 02:26:36,399
tell me even now

3425
02:26:41,190 --> 02:26:38,800
and you had talked about just marcel jr

3426
02:26:43,030 --> 02:26:41,200
the head of intelligence at roswell and

3427
02:26:45,030 --> 02:26:43,040
that he was a very bitter man and that

3428
02:26:48,070 --> 02:26:45,040
he was the patsy was the fall guy and

3429
02:26:51,270 --> 02:26:48,080
that they never let him die as far as

3430
02:26:52,790 --> 02:26:51,280
with any peace as to it happened jess

3431
02:26:55,670 --> 02:26:52,800
you know what happened but you

3432
02:26:57,510 --> 02:26:55,680
understand why we couldn't announce it

3433
02:26:58,630 --> 02:26:57,520
we couldn't tell the world that type of

3434
02:26:59,429 --> 02:26:58,640
thing

3435
02:27:02,150 --> 02:26:59,439
so

3436
02:27:03,110 --> 02:27:02,160
it's a secret that most have taken with

3437
02:27:06,150 --> 02:27:03,120
them

3438
02:27:09,429 --> 02:27:06,160
but i'd like to believe that at times

3439
02:27:11,670 --> 02:27:09,439
people have earned the right to know

3440
02:27:14,389 --> 02:27:11,680
and once again ladies and gentlemen we

3441
02:27:17,990 --> 02:27:14,399
may never be at this precipice again we

3442
02:27:19,990 --> 02:27:18,000
may never be so close as to now

3443
02:27:22,150 --> 02:27:20,000
we're in this tug of war

3444
02:27:24,150 --> 02:27:22,160
and we need to start pulling for all its

3445
02:27:26,469 --> 02:27:24,160
work because we won't have another

3446
02:27:28,309 --> 02:27:26,479
opportunity do you think it's that we

3447
02:27:31,110 --> 02:27:28,319
just have a couple of minutes left and

3448
02:27:33,190 --> 02:27:31,120
thank you what a great conversation um

3449
02:27:33,990 --> 02:27:33,200
that uh we know that presidents come and

3450
02:27:36,790 --> 02:27:34,000
go

3451
02:27:40,630 --> 02:27:36,800
but so do the directors of the cia or

3452
02:27:43,110 --> 02:27:40,640
the nro or the nsa and uh

3453
02:27:44,550 --> 02:27:43,120
this is a constant change at the

3454
02:27:46,630 --> 02:27:44,560
director level

3455
02:27:48,469 --> 02:27:46,640
uh that's that's what happens every four

3456
02:27:50,469 --> 02:27:48,479
years uh maybe even every two years

3457
02:27:52,870 --> 02:27:50,479
sometimes every six months

3458
02:27:55,670 --> 02:27:52,880
there's a lot of living directors right

3459
02:27:57,670 --> 02:27:55,680
now of the cia i i had no idea there was

3460
02:28:00,070 --> 02:27:57,680
that many absolutely but there's uh

3461
02:28:02,710 --> 02:28:00,080
there's a couple of dozen

3462
02:28:04,550 --> 02:28:02,720
door it's a revolving door but the

3463
02:28:07,510 --> 02:28:04,560
career

3464
02:28:10,469 --> 02:28:07,520
people in those agencies

3465
02:28:12,790 --> 02:28:10,479
are there for life those are the ones

3466
02:28:14,870 --> 02:28:12,800
that are sitting on the knowledge

3467
02:28:17,190 --> 02:28:14,880
right and it doesn't necessarily get to

3468
02:28:18,630 --> 02:28:17,200
the director level does it that's that's

3469
02:28:21,190 --> 02:28:18,640
absolutely correct jimmy and that's one

3470
02:28:21,990 --> 02:28:21,200
of the reasons when people cite that

3471
02:28:24,150 --> 02:28:22,000
you know

3472
02:28:26,389 --> 02:28:24,160
george

3473
02:28:28,550 --> 02:28:26,399
h bush senior

3474
02:28:31,110 --> 02:28:28,560
you know he was head of the cia

3475
02:28:33,030 --> 02:28:31,120
so he had access he knew well he was he

3476
02:28:35,190 --> 02:28:33,040
was an interim director it was only for

3477
02:28:37,030 --> 02:28:35,200
six months right they wouldn't have told

3478
02:28:40,070 --> 02:28:37,040
him anything knowing that

3479
02:28:42,309 --> 02:28:40,080
he was already one foot out the door and

3480
02:28:43,349 --> 02:28:42,319
so that's why

3481
02:28:45,590 --> 02:28:43,359
as

3482
02:28:47,990 --> 02:28:45,600
i don't believe that the mj 12 documents

3483
02:28:49,990 --> 02:28:48,000
for example majestic 12 are legitimate

3484
02:28:52,309 --> 02:28:50,000
documents i'm convinced there are hoax

3485
02:28:54,389 --> 02:28:52,319
but nonetheless there was an oversight

3486
02:28:56,710 --> 02:28:54,399
committee appointed the late general

3487
02:28:59,590 --> 02:28:56,720
arthur exxon told us it was called the

3488
02:29:01,910 --> 02:28:59,600
unholy 13 for example that president

3489
02:29:04,309 --> 02:29:01,920
truman back in 47

3490
02:29:06,230 --> 02:29:04,319
you have debris you have remains you

3491
02:29:09,670 --> 02:29:06,240
have a survivor

3492
02:29:12,710 --> 02:29:09,680
now this is going to supersede you know

3493
02:29:14,070 --> 02:29:12,720
my presidency this is going to go on for

3494
02:29:16,150 --> 02:29:14,080
decades

3495
02:29:18,550 --> 02:29:16,160
possibly centuries so in other words we

3496
02:29:20,309 --> 02:29:18,560
need to appoint an oversight committee

3497
02:29:21,990 --> 02:29:20,319
that will take charge

3498
02:29:24,950 --> 02:29:22,000
that will then supersede each

3499
02:29:26,950 --> 02:29:24,960
administration and as a result they're

3500
02:29:29,830 --> 02:29:26,960
the ones who brief the president they're

3501
02:29:32,790 --> 02:29:29,840
the ones who take as far as others

3502
02:29:35,590 --> 02:29:32,800
officials aside and say uh uh we're not

3503
02:29:37,510 --> 02:29:35,600
ready and that's where

3504
02:29:40,710 --> 02:29:37,520
they're still pulling the strings

3505
02:29:41,670 --> 02:29:40,720
are they even involved in this situation

3506
02:29:44,469 --> 02:29:41,680
are they

3507
02:29:46,230 --> 02:29:44,479
going to applaud and then

3508
02:29:48,870 --> 02:29:46,240
spear head

3509
02:29:51,910 --> 02:29:48,880
the release of information are they or

3510
02:29:53,910 --> 02:29:51,920
are they going to again divert distract

3511
02:29:55,990 --> 02:29:53,920
are they going to muddy the waters and

3512
02:29:58,070 --> 02:29:56,000
we're in and five years from now we're

3513
02:29:59,990 --> 02:29:58,080
going to be no further no closer to the

3514
02:30:03,190 --> 02:30:00,000
truth than we are now wouldn't that be

3515
02:30:05,910 --> 02:30:03,200
just the ultimate disaster yeah do you

3516
02:30:08,070 --> 02:30:05,920
think that uh with with everything that

3517
02:30:09,270 --> 02:30:08,080
you know um

3518
02:30:11,190 --> 02:30:09,280
uh

3519
02:30:13,429 --> 02:30:11,200
the election's over new president goes

3520
02:30:15,750 --> 02:30:13,439
in and sits down in the oval office and

3521
02:30:20,389 --> 02:30:15,760
you know adjusting uh

3522
02:30:21,990 --> 02:30:20,399
uh the uh his pen holder right

3523
02:30:23,510 --> 02:30:22,000
right putting the phone in the right

3524
02:30:25,030 --> 02:30:23,520
position and he's sitting there at the

3525
02:30:28,870 --> 02:30:25,040
resolute desk

3526
02:30:29,910 --> 02:30:28,880
that there is a folder right there uh

3527
02:30:32,710 --> 02:30:29,920
with

3528
02:30:33,910 --> 02:30:32,720
every you know all the the the the

3529
02:30:36,550 --> 02:30:33,920
secret

3530
02:30:37,910 --> 02:30:36,560
uh briefing that comes in uh every

3531
02:30:39,429 --> 02:30:37,920
single day

3532
02:30:42,389 --> 02:30:39,439
is there

3533
02:30:43,670 --> 02:30:42,399
information on et are they read in

3534
02:30:47,110 --> 02:30:43,680
i mean do they

3535
02:30:49,750 --> 02:30:47,120
and and can they go in and request

3536
02:30:52,550 --> 02:30:49,760
right okay well i'm here we'll deal with

3537
02:30:56,309 --> 02:30:52,560
syria and north korea in just a second

3538
02:30:58,070 --> 02:30:56,319
but i want to see the area 51 files

3539
02:31:00,790 --> 02:30:58,080
well you would think and certainly if a

3540
02:31:04,550 --> 02:31:00,800
president gives an executive order

3541
02:31:07,670 --> 02:31:04,560
that it has to be obeyed but

3542
02:31:10,309 --> 02:31:07,680
the military and i've had

3543
02:31:12,309 --> 02:31:10,319
a major general explain to me

3544
02:31:14,230 --> 02:31:12,319
that even albeit the president is

3545
02:31:17,910 --> 02:31:14,240
commander-in-chief

3546
02:31:20,230 --> 02:31:17,920
just as a four-star general maybe

3547
02:31:22,389 --> 02:31:20,240
you know as far as calling the shots

3548
02:31:24,630 --> 02:31:22,399
it may be determined that they still

3549
02:31:26,870 --> 02:31:24,640
have no need to know

3550
02:31:29,349 --> 02:31:26,880
and through the compartmentalization

3551
02:31:31,670 --> 02:31:29,359
of the military just as political

3552
02:31:33,910 --> 02:31:31,680
affairs in general if they feel the

3553
02:31:37,990 --> 02:31:33,920
president that it would endanger his or

3554
02:31:40,389 --> 02:31:38,000
her life in in actually acquiring such

3555
02:31:42,630 --> 02:31:40,399
knowledge such information or they just

3556
02:31:44,150 --> 02:31:42,640
feel that my god this individual's gonna

3557
02:31:45,030 --> 02:31:44,160
be walking the street in four or eight

3558
02:31:47,510 --> 02:31:45,040
years

3559
02:31:50,870 --> 02:31:47,520
and we're just not going to take the

3560
02:31:53,590 --> 02:31:50,880
chance right them in the dark

3561
02:31:56,469 --> 02:31:53,600
that must be how it is i mean

3562
02:31:59,590 --> 02:31:56,479
as as crazy as it sounds

3563
02:32:01,110 --> 02:31:59,600
it it's the safe card

3564
02:32:02,790 --> 02:32:01,120
it's the same i mean

3565
02:32:04,870 --> 02:32:02,800
you don't know you don't know anybody's

3566
02:32:06,630 --> 02:32:04,880
stability in eight years

3567
02:32:08,309 --> 02:32:06,640
no no no

3568
02:32:11,429 --> 02:32:08,319
and where the military

3569
02:32:13,429 --> 02:32:11,439
more times than not they will sign a a a

3570
02:32:16,550 --> 02:32:13,439
statement of non-disclosure

3571
02:32:17,349 --> 02:32:16,560
and then for the next 25 years they are

3572
02:32:19,510 --> 02:32:17,359
to

3573
02:32:22,150 --> 02:32:19,520
honor you know that sworn oath of

3574
02:32:24,550 --> 02:32:22,160
secrecy let's keep in mind too that

3575
02:32:25,830 --> 02:32:24,560
president dwight eisenhower

3576
02:32:27,750 --> 02:32:25,840
as far as

3577
02:32:29,910 --> 02:32:27,760
four star well actually five-star

3578
02:32:31,990 --> 02:32:29,920
general that he received an additional

3579
02:32:33,349 --> 02:32:32,000
star he did

3580
02:32:35,230 --> 02:32:33,359
by congress

3581
02:32:39,349 --> 02:32:35,240
and he was chief of staff of the army in

3582
02:32:42,309 --> 02:32:39,359
1947 so he certainly had full access to

3583
02:32:44,550 --> 02:32:42,319
roswell and anything else related to the

3584
02:32:46,150 --> 02:32:44,560
phenomena to the subject matter in his

3585
02:32:48,550 --> 02:32:46,160
own memoirs

3586
02:32:49,590 --> 02:32:48,560
he complained that after he became

3587
02:32:51,349 --> 02:32:49,600
president

3588
02:32:53,110 --> 02:32:51,359
the military didn't tell him anything

3589
02:32:55,510 --> 02:32:53,120
anymore

3590
02:32:58,870 --> 02:32:55,520
and he was a five-star general

3591
02:33:01,670 --> 02:32:58,880
but he was no longer connected he was no

3592
02:33:04,710 --> 02:33:01,680
longer part of that

3593
02:33:09,030 --> 02:33:04,720
policy that situation that war room so

3594
02:33:11,910 --> 02:33:09,040
to speak and so if he didn't qualify

3595
02:33:14,870 --> 02:33:11,920
we would think of donald trump would

3596
02:33:18,389 --> 02:33:14,880
a joe biden no yeah right right right

3597
02:33:20,950 --> 02:33:18,399
well isn't there um

3598
02:33:23,910 --> 02:33:20,960
you've uh you and i are the same age by

3599
02:33:26,389 --> 02:33:23,920
the way you don't have a wrinkle

3600
02:33:27,590 --> 02:33:26,399
are you are you botoxing what what's the

3601
02:33:30,070 --> 02:33:27,600
deal man

3602
02:33:33,110 --> 02:33:30,080
what's the deal james i have a you don't

3603
02:33:35,429 --> 02:33:33,120
have a wrinkle on your for you

3604
02:33:37,590 --> 02:33:35,439
no you don't i'm looking you're this big

3605
02:33:38,870 --> 02:33:37,600
in my face

3606
02:33:41,590 --> 02:33:38,880
it's the lighting

3607
02:33:44,710 --> 02:33:41,600
soft lens soft lens

3608
02:33:47,030 --> 02:33:44,720
but anyways soft lens um

3609
02:33:49,990 --> 02:33:47,040
uh i need to get that software on my

3610
02:33:52,150 --> 02:33:50,000
webcam uh whatever you're running

3611
02:33:54,230 --> 02:33:52,160
but you and i are the same age and we

3612
02:33:56,790 --> 02:33:54,240
have gone through

3613
02:33:59,349 --> 02:33:56,800
some pretty amazing phases in

3614
02:34:01,750 --> 02:33:59,359
information technology we you and i have

3615
02:34:03,030 --> 02:34:01,760
gone from time magazine being delivered

3616
02:34:03,990 --> 02:34:03,040
once a week

3617
02:34:07,030 --> 02:34:04,000
right

3618
02:34:07,830 --> 02:34:07,040
to now to what to what we have today

3619
02:34:09,429 --> 02:34:07,840
and

3620
02:34:10,950 --> 02:34:09,439
the government

3621
02:34:13,349 --> 02:34:10,960
instant communication instant

3622
02:34:18,230 --> 02:34:13,359
information it's an information and the

3623
02:34:21,110 --> 02:34:18,240
government has never ever experienced a

3624
02:34:22,630 --> 02:34:21,120
lack of control of information like they

3625
02:34:25,590 --> 02:34:22,640
are today they could control the

3626
02:34:27,110 --> 02:34:25,600
narrative up until now now it's a

3627
02:34:30,150 --> 02:34:27,120
different kind of party

3628
02:34:32,710 --> 02:34:30,160
is this part of their friendliness of

3629
02:34:34,150 --> 02:34:32,720
the ufo subject right now because they

3630
02:34:35,910 --> 02:34:34,160
are not in control

3631
02:34:38,309 --> 02:34:35,920
you make an excellent point jimmy and

3632
02:34:42,830 --> 02:34:38,319
that's where the watchdogs at the gate

3633
02:34:45,750 --> 02:34:42,840
the media need to also you know step up

3634
02:34:49,270 --> 02:34:45,760
because it's one thing for the ufo

3635
02:34:51,830 --> 02:34:49,280
community to engage to pressure

3636
02:34:54,309 --> 02:34:51,840
but we're still going to be looked at as

3637
02:34:55,590 --> 02:34:54,319
just a pool of civilians

3638
02:34:57,830 --> 02:34:55,600
albeit

3639
02:35:00,710 --> 02:34:57,840
a good number our phds and our

3640
02:35:03,830 --> 02:35:00,720
scientists and some may be ashton former

3641
02:35:05,429 --> 02:35:03,840
astronauts and many many are highly

3642
02:35:07,670 --> 02:35:05,439
qualified and know what they're talking

3643
02:35:10,630 --> 02:35:07,680
about we we know who these people are

3644
02:35:13,030 --> 02:35:10,640
but the point being that the media has

3645
02:35:15,510 --> 02:35:13,040
the funding we don't

3646
02:35:16,630 --> 02:35:15,520
the media you know can be relentless we

3647
02:35:18,870 --> 02:35:16,640
can't be

3648
02:35:20,550 --> 02:35:18,880
because we still have our own lives we

3649
02:35:21,990 --> 02:35:20,560
have our families you know we still have

3650
02:35:23,750 --> 02:35:22,000
to make a living

3651
02:35:27,590 --> 02:35:23,760
and that's where

3652
02:35:30,870 --> 02:35:27,600
we have to truly sit down and plan this

3653
02:35:33,349 --> 02:35:30,880
out if we don't it's it's going to be a

3654
02:35:35,670 --> 02:35:33,359
another case of where we're just nipping

3655
02:35:37,990 --> 02:35:35,680
at their ankles and who's going to get

3656
02:35:41,190 --> 02:35:38,000
the bigger bite no we have to for the

3657
02:35:43,590 --> 02:35:41,200
first time be a united force

3658
02:35:45,510 --> 02:35:43,600
and i think that's where people such as

3659
02:35:48,389 --> 02:35:45,520
yourself as far as especially with this

3660
02:35:50,150 --> 02:35:48,399
program you can champion that effort

3661
02:35:51,510 --> 02:35:50,160
and i just uh

3662
02:35:52,389 --> 02:35:51,520
i just look forward to being part of

3663
02:35:54,710 --> 02:35:52,399
that

3664
02:35:56,870 --> 02:35:54,720
one of the uh

3665
02:35:59,750 --> 02:35:56,880
one of the things that i say over and

3666
02:36:01,830 --> 02:35:59,760
over again to

3667
02:36:03,190 --> 02:36:01,840
those out there that shall remain

3668
02:36:06,830 --> 02:36:03,200
nameless

3669
02:36:08,469 --> 02:36:06,840
that want me to cover

3670
02:36:11,190 --> 02:36:08,479
uh

3671
02:36:12,710 --> 02:36:11,200
different subjects and and hand me off

3672
02:36:15,030 --> 02:36:12,720
information

3673
02:36:16,070 --> 02:36:15,040
my response back don

3674
02:36:17,429 --> 02:36:16,080
and

3675
02:36:19,429 --> 02:36:17,439
trust me there are hundreds of people

3676
02:36:20,870 --> 02:36:19,439
out there that have heard these words

3677
02:36:23,429 --> 02:36:20,880
i will say

3678
02:36:25,349 --> 02:36:23,439
does it benefit the community

3679
02:36:27,750 --> 02:36:25,359
what you are giving me right now i

3680
02:36:30,469 --> 02:36:27,760
suppose i'm here for the community

3681
02:36:32,950 --> 02:36:30,479
and so does this support the community

3682
02:36:35,590 --> 02:36:32,960
and if it doesn't i'm not interested

3683
02:36:37,830 --> 02:36:35,600
i i i simply am not you could take it

3684
02:36:40,710 --> 02:36:37,840
somewhere else there's somebody else out

3685
02:36:42,550 --> 02:36:40,720
there that that maybe but but as for me

3686
02:36:44,550 --> 02:36:42,560
it's community first

3687
02:36:46,070 --> 02:36:44,560
and and i think that's what's most

3688
02:36:47,830 --> 02:36:46,080
important and that has always been the

3689
02:36:51,030 --> 02:36:47,840
vehicle for this show

3690
02:36:54,389 --> 02:36:51,040
is uh community first it may sound noble

3691
02:36:56,790 --> 02:36:54,399
it may sound philosophical it may sound

3692
02:36:58,309 --> 02:36:56,800
this and that but it's the truth it is

3693
02:37:00,230 --> 02:36:58,319
the truth i applaud you for that and

3694
02:37:02,230 --> 02:37:00,240
that's why we're such good friends

3695
02:37:03,670 --> 02:37:02,240
because

3696
02:37:05,429 --> 02:37:03,680
it is for

3697
02:37:06,710 --> 02:37:05,439
the whole

3698
02:37:09,270 --> 02:37:06,720
because

3699
02:37:12,150 --> 02:37:09,280
what what does one gain it'd be no

3700
02:37:14,230 --> 02:37:12,160
different than okay

3701
02:37:17,270 --> 02:37:14,240
i get

3702
02:37:18,550 --> 02:37:17,280
someone at the pentagon to confide to me

3703
02:37:20,469 --> 02:37:18,560
don

3704
02:37:23,970 --> 02:37:20,479
you're really superman

3705
02:37:28,870 --> 02:37:27,830
[Laughter]

3706
02:37:32,150 --> 02:37:28,880
oh

3707
02:37:34,870 --> 02:37:32,160
man okay but but you know okay i can

3708
02:37:37,750 --> 02:37:34,880
live out the rest of my life and

3709
02:37:39,670 --> 02:37:37,760
not help a single individual but but i'm

3710
02:37:41,030 --> 02:37:39,680
superman

3711
02:37:43,190 --> 02:37:41,040
and so

3712
02:37:45,030 --> 02:37:43,200
i know exactly what you're saying

3713
02:37:47,910 --> 02:37:45,040
because this story

3714
02:37:49,750 --> 02:37:47,920
is is too big for any one of us it's too

3715
02:37:52,469 --> 02:37:49,760
big for this planet

3716
02:37:54,550 --> 02:37:52,479
and yet it may be the very reason that a

3717
02:37:55,750 --> 02:37:54,560
handful of individuals decided back in

3718
02:37:56,710 --> 02:37:55,760
47

3719
02:37:58,710 --> 02:37:56,720
yes

3720
02:38:01,030 --> 02:37:58,720
we need time we need to assess the

3721
02:38:03,190 --> 02:38:01,040
situation we need to determine exactly

3722
02:38:05,270 --> 02:38:03,200
what and certainly i could justify the

3723
02:38:06,389 --> 02:38:05,280
cover-up back then they didn't even

3724
02:38:09,429 --> 02:38:06,399
know if they were dealing with a

3725
02:38:11,830 --> 02:38:09,439
vanguard of an approaching invasion

3726
02:38:13,590 --> 02:38:11,840
or you know benefactors that were here

3727
02:38:15,429 --> 02:38:13,600
to take us back to the garden of eden we

3728
02:38:17,830 --> 02:38:15,439
we had no idea

3729
02:38:20,790 --> 02:38:17,840
but here we are 75 years later and it

3730
02:38:23,990 --> 02:38:20,800
still comes back to what have we learned

3731
02:38:26,070 --> 02:38:24,000
now the novice the general you know lay

3732
02:38:27,590 --> 02:38:26,080
person really knows nothing about the

3733
02:38:29,030 --> 02:38:27,600
subject what they've read what they've

3734
02:38:31,190 --> 02:38:29,040
seen on television in the movies that

3735
02:38:33,510 --> 02:38:31,200
type of thing they may think all et's

3736
02:38:35,750 --> 02:38:33,520
are cuddly little you know stuffed dolls

3737
02:38:37,510 --> 02:38:35,760
like in the movie that type of thing

3738
02:38:39,030 --> 02:38:37,520
but in reality

3739
02:38:41,030 --> 02:38:39,040
those of us who have lived it have

3740
02:38:42,870 --> 02:38:41,040
studied it who have you know talked to

3741
02:38:44,230 --> 02:38:42,880
all the people who have actually had

3742
02:38:46,469 --> 02:38:44,240
encounters

3743
02:38:47,910 --> 02:38:46,479
we know that it could potentially be the

3744
02:38:50,309 --> 02:38:47,920
most frightening

3745
02:38:53,590 --> 02:38:50,319
you know in you know endeavor that this

3746
02:38:55,510 --> 02:38:53,600
earth has ever you know experienced

3747
02:38:57,830 --> 02:38:55,520
and so it has to be treated with kid

3748
02:38:58,950 --> 02:38:57,840
gloves because again we're dealing with

3749
02:39:01,510 --> 02:38:58,960
something

3750
02:39:02,950 --> 02:39:01,520
that there's no owner's manual

3751
02:39:04,389 --> 02:39:02,960
like the army back at the time of

3752
02:39:06,469 --> 02:39:04,399
roswell there was nothing in the field

3753
02:39:07,990 --> 02:39:06,479
manual crashed ufo this is how we're

3754
02:39:09,510 --> 02:39:08,000
going to deal with it

3755
02:39:10,710 --> 02:39:09,520
they had to go through the motions but

3756
02:39:12,469 --> 02:39:10,720
they had to make it up as they went

3757
02:39:14,309 --> 02:39:12,479
along and they had to still hope that

3758
02:39:15,510 --> 02:39:14,319
they would get it right

3759
02:39:17,190 --> 02:39:15,520
and they did

3760
02:39:19,510 --> 02:39:17,200
in the sense that they managed to get

3761
02:39:21,670 --> 02:39:19,520
the press off their backs they managed

3762
02:39:23,349 --> 02:39:21,680
to cover it up for the next 30 years

3763
02:39:25,670 --> 02:39:23,359
they got away with that

3764
02:39:27,750 --> 02:39:25,680
you brought up a blue book uh so many

3765
02:39:28,710 --> 02:39:27,760
times tonight and

3766
02:39:32,070 --> 02:39:28,720
uh

3767
02:39:33,990 --> 02:39:32,080
and roswell roswell's not in blue book

3768
02:39:35,349 --> 02:39:34,000
no and it's

3769
02:39:37,429 --> 02:39:35,359
a single clipping of the national

3770
02:39:39,030 --> 02:39:37,439
archives that's it that's it that's it

3771
02:39:41,110 --> 02:39:39,040
and now

3772
02:39:43,670 --> 02:39:41,120
looking at blue book i'm going to give

3773
02:39:47,670 --> 02:39:43,680
you my answer after i hear yours

3774
02:39:50,469 --> 02:39:47,680
but when there's 701 cases there that uh

3775
02:39:51,190 --> 02:39:50,479
are unresolved there's there's that but

3776
02:39:55,429 --> 02:39:51,200
uh

3777
02:39:58,389 --> 02:39:55,439
out of everything that was in blue book

3778
02:40:02,790 --> 02:39:58,399
what's the only give me one

3779
02:40:02,800 --> 02:40:06,950
just one

3780
02:40:10,790 --> 02:40:07,830
oh

3781
02:40:12,870 --> 02:40:10,800
it's it's difficult because i i would

3782
02:40:15,190 --> 02:40:12,880
suggest

3783
02:40:17,750 --> 02:40:15,200
i love the dexter ann arbor but i i

3784
02:40:19,269 --> 02:40:17,760
would say the socorro new mexico yeah

3785
02:40:21,429 --> 02:40:19,279
that's my choice too

3786
02:40:22,950 --> 02:40:21,439
i'm going socorro

3787
02:40:24,710 --> 02:40:22,960
um

3788
02:40:27,990 --> 02:40:24,720
an actual landing

3789
02:40:30,389 --> 02:40:28,000
the fact that as uh the last director

3790
02:40:32,870 --> 02:40:30,399
project blue book hector quintanella i

3791
02:40:35,750 --> 02:40:32,880
mean even in his own writing that they

3792
02:40:38,469 --> 02:40:35,760
went out of their way and quintonella as

3793
02:40:39,750 --> 02:40:38,479
as heineken called him was a nasty

3794
02:40:42,469 --> 02:40:39,760
officer

3795
02:40:44,870 --> 02:40:42,479
he would call up a police chief after

3796
02:40:48,630 --> 02:40:44,880
you know his police officers would have

3797
02:40:52,150 --> 02:40:48,640
a high-speed chase like the ohio as far

3798
02:40:54,710 --> 02:40:52,160
as 1966 police chase that is actually

3799
02:40:56,950 --> 02:40:54,720
dramatized in the close encounters movie

3800
02:40:59,110 --> 02:40:56,960
at one point and he is the first

3801
02:41:01,670 --> 02:40:59,120
question of his mouth was uh tell me

3802
02:41:03,670 --> 02:41:01,680
about the hallucination your your men

3803
02:41:06,389 --> 02:41:03,680
just had

3804
02:41:09,590 --> 02:41:06,399
so that's how quintanilla was but yet he

3805
02:41:12,309 --> 02:41:09,600
could not explain away socorro

3806
02:41:14,550 --> 02:41:12,319
heinek you know he he felt that he

3807
02:41:16,070 --> 02:41:14,560
needed to prove that this was a hoax

3808
02:41:18,070 --> 02:41:16,080
that this was something conventional he

3809
02:41:20,389 --> 02:41:18,080
did everything he could he did

3810
02:41:22,550 --> 02:41:20,399
everything he could he went to nasa he

3811
02:41:24,950 --> 02:41:22,560
went to the research facilities the

3812
02:41:27,750 --> 02:41:24,960
lunar lander angle the university that

3813
02:41:30,870 --> 02:41:27,760
was there the kids doing the hoax he did

3814
02:41:34,230 --> 02:41:30,880
everything that he could to just get his

3815
02:41:36,790 --> 02:41:34,240
answers and he came up with nothing he

3816
02:41:39,510 --> 02:41:36,800
came up with nothing and then true to

3817
02:41:43,349 --> 02:41:39,520
his scientific nature and the late ted

3818
02:41:46,309 --> 02:41:43,359
phillips confided to me before he died

3819
02:41:47,590 --> 02:41:46,319
that after blue book folded in the end

3820
02:41:49,750 --> 02:41:47,600
of 69

3821
02:41:51,590 --> 02:41:49,760
that the one the first place that

3822
02:41:53,670 --> 02:41:51,600
heineken wanted to go

3823
02:41:56,790 --> 02:41:53,680
and re-examine

3824
02:41:58,469 --> 02:41:56,800
and reinvestigate was the coral

3825
02:42:01,429 --> 02:41:58,479
and what most people aren't aware of is

3826
02:42:05,030 --> 02:42:01,439
the fact that the very next night

3827
02:42:07,030 --> 02:42:05,040
24 hours later there was another

3828
02:42:08,230 --> 02:42:07,040
experience another sighting another

3829
02:42:09,190 --> 02:42:08,240
landing

3830
02:42:10,710 --> 02:42:09,200
in

3831
02:42:12,870 --> 02:42:10,720
la madera

3832
02:42:14,309 --> 02:42:12,880
about a hundred miles to the northeast

3833
02:42:17,269 --> 02:42:14,319
of socorro

3834
02:42:21,349 --> 02:42:17,279
and phillips told me that heinek was

3835
02:42:23,429 --> 02:42:21,359
convinced it was the exact same craft

3836
02:42:25,190 --> 02:42:23,439
so they held with this nonsense that it

3837
02:42:27,830 --> 02:42:25,200
was the lunar module that they were

3838
02:42:29,990 --> 02:42:27,840
experimenting with the lamb and so again

3839
02:42:32,230 --> 02:42:30,000
well how come nobody saw the crane

3840
02:42:34,230 --> 02:42:32,240
lowering it down into the desert scent

3841
02:42:36,469 --> 02:42:34,240
you know i think zamora

3842
02:42:37,349 --> 02:42:36,479
knows the difference between an egg i

3843
02:42:38,389 --> 02:42:37,359
don't know

3844
02:42:42,230 --> 02:42:38,399
i know

3845
02:42:44,469 --> 02:42:42,240
and a lunar lander and now uh man

3846
02:42:46,309 --> 02:42:44,479
okay uh i need to take a commercial

3847
02:42:48,389 --> 02:42:46,319
break and say good night to you and all

3848
02:42:50,630 --> 02:42:48,399
of that uh i just don't want to say good

3849
02:42:51,830 --> 02:42:50,640
night and i'm i'm being a little selfish

3850
02:42:52,950 --> 02:42:51,840
right now

3851
02:42:55,750 --> 02:42:52,960
there is

3852
02:42:56,790 --> 02:42:55,760
something interesting here

3853
02:42:59,030 --> 02:42:56,800
that

3854
02:43:00,710 --> 02:42:59,040
i don't think enough people are

3855
02:43:05,830 --> 02:43:00,720
are mentioning

3856
02:43:09,190 --> 02:43:05,840
but the description of zamora's craft

3857
02:43:11,190 --> 02:43:09,200
is the same or very similar to the tic

3858
02:43:13,910 --> 02:43:11,200
tac toe

3859
02:43:16,309 --> 02:43:13,920
why why aren't we connecting the dots on

3860
02:43:18,469 --> 02:43:16,319
this and discussing this further

3861
02:43:20,150 --> 02:43:18,479
and the fact that that that shape is

3862
02:43:21,269 --> 02:43:20,160
more common

3863
02:43:23,269 --> 02:43:21,279
than

3864
02:43:25,910 --> 02:43:23,279
even many of the

3865
02:43:28,550 --> 02:43:25,920
the rookie ufologists would know that

3866
02:43:30,950 --> 02:43:28,560
when you go back even through the 50s

3867
02:43:33,429 --> 02:43:30,960
there are many of the tic tac many of

3868
02:43:36,469 --> 02:43:33,439
the egg-shaped craft in fact even on the

3869
02:43:39,670 --> 02:43:36,479
air force chart that's one of the

3870
02:43:41,670 --> 02:43:39,680
you know predominant you know shapes

3871
02:43:43,590 --> 02:43:41,680
described by eyewitnesses whether

3872
02:43:46,389 --> 02:43:43,600
military or civilian

3873
02:43:48,710 --> 02:43:46,399
so there's nothing unusual about that

3874
02:43:50,550 --> 02:43:48,720
and yet it takes the novice once again

3875
02:43:52,950 --> 02:43:50,560
to get all excited about something that

3876
02:43:55,429 --> 02:43:52,960
we're going yeah we've known all about

3877
02:43:57,030 --> 02:43:55,439
this for the last 50 years

3878
02:43:58,389 --> 02:43:57,040
what's up for you now what are you

3879
02:44:01,110 --> 02:43:58,399
working on

3880
02:44:03,590 --> 02:44:01,120
well this year will be the 75th

3881
02:44:06,469 --> 02:44:03,600
anniversary of roswell

3882
02:44:09,670 --> 02:44:06,479
and uh we decided to make it a full year

3883
02:44:13,030 --> 02:44:09,680
commemoration we're gonna uh not just

3884
02:44:15,349 --> 02:44:13,040
over the july festival weekend we're

3885
02:44:18,230 --> 02:44:15,359
gonna we're gonna do it up uh for the

3886
02:44:19,830 --> 02:44:18,240
whole year and we're coming off of even

3887
02:44:21,910 --> 02:44:19,840
kovid with standing

3888
02:44:24,870 --> 02:44:21,920
the fact that last year at our museum in

3889
02:44:26,550 --> 02:44:24,880
roswell was our most highly attended uh

3890
02:44:27,590 --> 02:44:26,560
year yet

3891
02:44:29,750 --> 02:44:27,600
so

3892
02:44:32,630 --> 02:44:29,760
again we're winning

3893
02:44:35,349 --> 02:44:32,640
the point being that

3894
02:44:38,150 --> 02:44:35,359
no matter how often the government has

3895
02:44:39,429 --> 02:44:38,160
tried to sweep roswell slash the ufo

3896
02:44:43,110 --> 02:44:39,439
phenomenon

3897
02:44:45,590 --> 02:44:43,120
under you know the proverbial uh

3898
02:44:46,469 --> 02:44:45,600
you know wright-patterson area 51 junk

3899
02:44:47,510 --> 02:44:46,479
pile

3900
02:44:50,230 --> 02:44:47,520
it keeps

3901
02:44:52,550 --> 02:44:50,240
coming out from those underground vaults

3902
02:44:53,830 --> 02:44:52,560
that they try to keep things hidden

3903
02:44:54,630 --> 02:44:53,840
and so

3904
02:44:56,630 --> 02:44:54,640
we

3905
02:44:58,389 --> 02:44:56,640
are doing a revised edition of our

3906
02:45:00,150 --> 02:44:58,399
witness to roswell book which was the

3907
02:45:01,750 --> 02:45:00,160
number one selling ufo book in the world

3908
02:45:04,150 --> 02:45:01,760
for two straight years

3909
02:45:06,790 --> 02:45:04,160
so we've added new chapters

3910
02:45:09,990 --> 02:45:06,800
new witnesses and so there'll be a a

3911
02:45:13,349 --> 02:45:10,000
special 75th edition of that and we also

3912
02:45:15,670 --> 02:45:13,359
have the the new book that's out uh

3913
02:45:17,590 --> 02:45:15,680
uh uh i have to take a look at it

3914
02:45:20,230 --> 02:45:17,600
because i've done so many touched by

3915
02:45:21,830 --> 02:45:20,240
roswell crash encounters of the rich and

3916
02:45:22,710 --> 02:45:21,840
famous

3917
02:45:25,910 --> 02:45:22,720
yes

3918
02:45:29,429 --> 02:45:25,920
all the celebrities from john denver to

3919
02:45:32,230 --> 02:45:29,439
demi moore to edgar mitchell to tommy

3920
02:45:35,510 --> 02:45:32,240
brookshire to sam donaldson

3921
02:45:38,469 --> 02:45:35,520
to jim uh jimmy carter to bill clinton

3922
02:45:40,870 --> 02:45:38,479
to ronald reagan anyone and everyone who

3923
02:45:42,469 --> 02:45:40,880
has somehow been connected to roswell

3924
02:45:44,309 --> 02:45:42,479
been born they're going to school

3925
02:45:47,190 --> 02:45:44,319
they're visited there

3926
02:45:49,590 --> 02:45:47,200
and so on it's not a research book but

3927
02:45:53,030 --> 02:45:49,600
we just felt that it would be a fun book

3928
02:45:53,990 --> 02:45:53,040
to just demonstrate that it truly is the

3929
02:45:57,670 --> 02:45:54,000
mecca

3930
02:46:00,150 --> 02:45:57,680
of of of all of us well i haven't uh i

3931
02:46:02,150 --> 02:46:00,160
haven't been back to roswell uh for five

3932
02:46:03,910 --> 02:46:02,160
or six years this is the 75th

3933
02:46:05,590 --> 02:46:03,920
anniversary

3934
02:46:07,830 --> 02:46:05,600
so uh maybe you and i can have a

3935
02:46:09,510 --> 02:46:07,840
conversation and uh

3936
02:46:11,030 --> 02:46:09,520
and i'll come out and hang out with you

3937
02:46:12,790 --> 02:46:11,040
guys uh i'd like to see you i think it

3938
02:46:14,710 --> 02:46:12,800
happened jimmy i truly would yeah that

3939
02:46:17,990 --> 02:46:14,720
uh it would be amazing

3940
02:46:20,469 --> 02:46:18,000
uh i the the wonderful you know this is

3941
02:46:24,469 --> 02:46:20,479
the thing uh before i say good night

3942
02:46:25,349 --> 02:46:24,479
um after i got back from roswell that

3943
02:46:27,830 --> 02:46:25,359
uh

3944
02:46:30,870 --> 02:46:27,840
that friday i was on coast

3945
02:46:33,990 --> 02:46:30,880
and uh i was hosting coast friday night

3946
02:46:36,070 --> 02:46:34,000
and after uh doing radio i was

3947
02:46:37,510 --> 02:46:36,080
interviewed you know there in roswell

3948
02:46:39,990 --> 02:46:37,520
and hanging out with the beautiful

3949
02:46:42,469 --> 02:46:40,000
people of the city i i came back and i

3950
02:46:44,870 --> 02:46:42,479
went i went on coast and i talked about

3951
02:46:47,670 --> 02:46:44,880
roswell for like 45 minutes

3952
02:46:51,030 --> 02:46:47,680
i i i couldn't stop it was just an

3953
02:46:52,950 --> 02:46:51,040
extraordinary experience and so yeah

3954
02:46:55,510 --> 02:46:52,960
seventy did that intoxicating it's

3955
02:46:57,590 --> 02:46:55,520
intoxicating in the sense that all one

3956
02:47:00,630 --> 02:46:57,600
need consider is

3957
02:47:05,030 --> 02:47:00,640
what if it's all true what if it did all

3958
02:47:07,030 --> 02:47:05,040
happen as can be documented uh all those

3959
02:47:09,349 --> 02:47:07,040
witnesses that

3960
02:47:11,429 --> 02:47:09,359
we've been able to demonstrate and

3961
02:47:13,670 --> 02:47:11,439
document were there

3962
02:47:16,070 --> 02:47:13,680
whether at the base or whether in town

3963
02:47:18,230 --> 02:47:16,080
or either working or owning operating

3964
02:47:19,990 --> 02:47:18,240
those ranches north of town

3965
02:47:22,790 --> 02:47:20,000
they were there and have talked to all

3966
02:47:26,070 --> 02:47:22,800
of them and their story was consistent

3967
02:47:28,309 --> 02:47:26,080
and so you can't help but especially

3968
02:47:30,309 --> 02:47:28,319
peer up at the stars at light

3969
02:47:31,510 --> 02:47:30,319
and just think my god what a perfect

3970
02:47:37,750 --> 02:47:31,520
place

3971
02:47:40,230 --> 02:47:37,760
put out that beacon and said here we are

3972
02:47:43,349 --> 02:47:40,240
we mean you no harm

3973
02:47:45,670 --> 02:47:43,359
and we hope you come in peace

3974
02:47:47,990 --> 02:47:45,680
and they met their fatal end there but

3975
02:47:50,150 --> 02:47:48,000
nonetheless

3976
02:47:51,269 --> 02:47:50,160
under a different

3977
02:47:53,670 --> 02:47:51,279
president

3978
02:47:56,550 --> 02:47:53,680
possibly under different

3979
02:47:59,510 --> 02:47:56,560
leaders officers at the pentagon it may

3980
02:48:02,230 --> 02:47:59,520
have all come out in 47 already

3981
02:48:05,429 --> 02:48:02,240
but now again we have another chance and

3982
02:48:08,150 --> 02:48:05,439
that's why this may be our second

3983
02:48:09,269 --> 02:48:08,160
roswell in many respects and it's up to

3984
02:48:11,910 --> 02:48:09,279
us now

3985
02:48:14,870 --> 02:48:11,920
to uh retrieve every last fragment of

3986
02:48:17,510 --> 02:48:14,880
that ship and say i told you so

3987
02:48:18,710 --> 02:48:17,520
don schmidt thank you so much my friend

3988
02:48:20,630 --> 02:48:18,720
and uh

3989
02:48:22,150 --> 02:48:20,640
enjoy the rest of the new year we'll

3990
02:48:23,750 --> 02:48:22,160
circle back later this week and have a

3991
02:48:25,190 --> 02:48:23,760
conversation thank you so much i look

3992
02:48:26,790 --> 02:48:25,200
forward to it jimmy take care of my

3993
02:48:28,389 --> 02:48:26,800
friends my best to you and your family

3994
02:48:30,870 --> 02:48:28,399
happy holidays man

3995
02:48:34,150 --> 02:48:30,880
happy new year thank you thank you don

3996
02:48:36,630 --> 02:48:34,160
schmidt and again i've got the links up

3997
02:48:39,349 --> 02:48:36,640
uh for uh all of don's books right there

3998
02:48:40,790 --> 02:48:39,359
in social media and over on the website

3999
02:48:42,630 --> 02:48:40,800
i'm yours jimmy church i'm going to take

4000
02:48:44,790 --> 02:48:42,640
a quick break good night don have a

4001
02:48:45,750 --> 02:48:44,800
great night man thank you so much

4002
02:48:47,429 --> 02:48:45,760
for watching

4003
02:48:48,710 --> 02:48:47,439
the absolute very best i'm your host

4004
02:48:54,820 --> 02:48:48,720
jimmy church i'm going to take a quick

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02:48:54,830 --> 02:49:19,830
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you're listening to jimmy church and

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02:49:32,710 --> 02:49:30,309
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4009
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here and you are listening to my boy

4010
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despite popular opinion

4011
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reading a book will not make you smarter

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4107
02:54:32,830 --> 02:54:30,960
hold on i gotta put

4108
02:54:35,429 --> 02:54:32,840
uh

4109
02:54:36,230 --> 02:54:35,439
yeah trying

4110
02:54:44,790 --> 02:54:36,240
to

4111
02:54:46,070 --> 02:54:44,800
in

4112
02:54:47,269 --> 02:54:46,080
this

4113
02:54:50,710 --> 02:54:47,279
chat

4114
02:54:54,950 --> 02:54:50,720
is futile

4115
02:54:59,190 --> 02:54:57,910
i just had to do that welcome back i am

4116
02:55:00,389 --> 02:54:59,200
your host jimmy church i'm over in the

4117
02:55:03,190 --> 02:55:00,399
youtube chat

4118
02:55:04,710 --> 02:55:03,200
and uh i want to chop-chop somebody and

4119
02:55:06,630 --> 02:55:04,720
uh yeah

4120
02:55:08,070 --> 02:55:06,640
i was gonna go chop-chop somebody thank

4121
02:55:09,750 --> 02:55:08,080
you don schmidt

4122
02:55:12,389 --> 02:55:09,760
that was a a

4123
02:55:13,750 --> 02:55:12,399
another great great great great

4124
02:55:17,429 --> 02:55:13,760
conversation

4125
02:55:19,910 --> 02:55:17,439
and uh i i say this a lot uh about so

4126
02:55:21,030 --> 02:55:19,920
many guests on the show but

4127
02:55:22,710 --> 02:55:21,040
don

4128
02:55:25,830 --> 02:55:22,720
uh especially

4129
02:55:28,870 --> 02:55:25,840
if you ever get a chance uh to go up to

4130
02:55:31,429 --> 02:55:28,880
don and say hello and introduce yourself

4131
02:55:32,790 --> 02:55:31,439
and and have a conversation do it

4132
02:55:34,870 --> 02:55:32,800
it uh

4133
02:55:36,790 --> 02:55:34,880
uh i remember

4134
02:55:39,349 --> 02:55:36,800
um

4135
02:55:41,269 --> 02:55:39,359
don and i

4136
02:55:48,469 --> 02:55:41,279
sat

4137
02:55:49,670 --> 02:55:48,479
trying to think where this was but

4138
02:55:51,830 --> 02:55:49,680
anyway

4139
02:55:53,110 --> 02:55:51,840
uh it might have been roswell

4140
02:55:55,910 --> 02:55:53,120
um

4141
02:55:56,830 --> 02:55:55,920
but anyway we sat and we talked for like

4142
02:55:59,510 --> 02:55:56,840
three

4143
02:56:02,870 --> 02:55:59,520
hours just just just that's it i think

4144
02:56:05,670 --> 02:56:02,880
we had food we had drinks

4145
02:56:08,309 --> 02:56:05,680
and uh it was uh it was a great moment

4146
02:56:10,710 --> 02:56:08,319
and if you ever get it just go and do it

4147
02:56:13,429 --> 02:56:10,720
he's he's just absolutely incredible uh

4148
02:56:15,110 --> 02:56:13,439
just just just incredible so thank you

4149
02:56:17,269 --> 02:56:15,120
don thank you so much and thank you for

4150
02:56:20,389 --> 02:56:17,279
everything that you have done uh for the

4151
02:56:21,750 --> 02:56:20,399
last 50 years it uh has been incredible

4152
02:56:22,550 --> 02:56:21,760
for the community

4153
02:56:25,670 --> 02:56:22,560
and

4154
02:56:28,070 --> 02:56:25,680
nobody is as determined there are some

4155
02:56:29,349 --> 02:56:28,080
that are as but there's nobody more

4156
02:56:32,389 --> 02:56:29,359
determined

4157
02:56:34,950 --> 02:56:32,399
uh to to get to the end of the line than

4158
02:56:37,110 --> 02:56:34,960
don schmidt and i truly mean that with

4159
02:56:39,269 --> 02:56:37,120
that i got time for maybe one phone call

4160
02:56:43,830 --> 02:56:39,279
so let's uh let's see who's up hi you're

4161
02:56:49,349 --> 02:56:46,790
hey this is steve

4162
02:56:52,070 --> 02:56:49,359
steve where are you calling from

4163
02:56:52,870 --> 02:56:52,080
uh sierra modric california yeah right

4164
02:56:57,830 --> 02:56:52,880
on

4165
02:56:59,830 --> 02:56:57,840
hey yeah you know that place remember

4166
02:57:02,309 --> 02:56:59,840
the buccaneer i do remember the

4167
02:57:05,830 --> 02:57:02,319
buccaneer you know what uh

4168
02:57:09,030 --> 02:57:05,840
check this out this is a fact

4169
02:57:11,030 --> 02:57:09,040
i saw independence day

4170
02:57:14,309 --> 02:57:11,040
the day of its release

4171
02:57:16,630 --> 02:57:14,319
at the same sierra madre theater

4172
02:57:18,950 --> 02:57:16,640
that little small one right street yep

4173
02:57:20,950 --> 02:57:18,960
yep yep yep saw it right there man

4174
02:57:23,510 --> 02:57:20,960
and uh

4175
02:57:25,830 --> 02:57:23,520
apple dumpling game when i was about

4176
02:57:27,910 --> 02:57:25,840
three or four years old

4177
02:57:29,910 --> 02:57:27,920
i love sierra madre man

4178
02:57:32,309 --> 02:57:29,920
everything about sarah all of my friends

4179
02:57:34,469 --> 02:57:32,319
were from there everybody went to phs

4180
02:57:36,630 --> 02:57:34,479
and i lived in pasadena

4181
02:57:39,349 --> 02:57:36,640
i worked at vhs yeah of course you did

4182
02:57:41,349 --> 02:57:39,359
you from sierra madre and sierra madre

4183
02:57:43,510 --> 02:57:41,359
here's pasadena sierra madre is this

4184
02:57:46,870 --> 02:57:43,520
little tiny little

4185
02:57:47,750 --> 02:57:46,880
uh community uh that butts up uh to the

4186
02:57:50,630 --> 02:57:47,760
uh

4187
02:57:52,309 --> 02:57:50,640
i guess you would call it the south east

4188
02:57:53,190 --> 02:57:52,319
side uh

4189
02:57:55,429 --> 02:57:53,200
uh

4190
02:57:58,309 --> 02:57:55,439
is that east yeah i guess so

4191
02:58:02,230 --> 02:57:58,319
uh that side the right is the mountain

4192
02:58:03,670 --> 02:58:02,240
yeah the right side of pasadena so there

4193
02:58:05,269 --> 02:58:03,680
you go what's on your mind steve i just

4194
02:58:08,309 --> 02:58:05,279
got a couple of minutes

4195
02:58:10,389 --> 02:58:08,319
hey check this out okay

4196
02:58:12,230 --> 02:58:10,399
they're they're forcing i know you don't

4197
02:58:14,870 --> 02:58:12,240
like the vaccine

4198
02:58:17,429 --> 02:58:14,880
topic but hey uh

4199
02:58:19,349 --> 02:58:17,439
the all the major governments are

4200
02:58:21,910 --> 02:58:19,359
forcing the vaccine

4201
02:58:23,429 --> 02:58:21,920
so what happens that the aliens are

4202
02:58:26,150 --> 02:58:23,439
coming

4203
02:58:27,750 --> 02:58:26,160
and we all have to be vaccinated so they

4204
02:58:29,670 --> 02:58:27,760
won't get infected

4205
02:58:32,150 --> 02:58:29,680
well or

4206
02:58:33,910 --> 02:58:32,160
maybe we're being vaccinated for an

4207
02:58:35,830 --> 02:58:33,920
alien

4208
02:58:38,950 --> 02:58:35,840
virus

4209
02:58:41,830 --> 02:58:38,960
so we are vaccinated against the aliens

4210
02:58:43,510 --> 02:58:41,840
that's exact exactly exactly that could

4211
02:58:47,269 --> 02:58:43,520
be the other way around i've thought

4212
02:58:48,790 --> 02:58:47,279
about that i have no problems with that

4213
02:58:51,429 --> 02:58:48,800
i have no problem

4214
02:58:53,670 --> 02:58:51,439
i mean you know that's kind of crazy i

4215
02:59:03,990 --> 02:58:53,680
mean

4216
02:59:05,349 --> 02:59:04,000
it is a big deal but uh the virus is a

4217
02:59:06,550 --> 02:59:05,359
big deal but

4218
02:59:09,030 --> 02:59:06,560
yeah

4219
02:59:11,429 --> 02:59:09,040
look uh although i don't talk about it

4220
02:59:13,910 --> 02:59:11,439
uh on the show because you know i i

4221
02:59:15,830 --> 02:59:13,920
people come too fast i don't

4222
02:59:16,790 --> 02:59:15,840
well that people come to fade to black

4223
02:59:20,389 --> 02:59:16,800
uh

4224
02:59:22,230 --> 02:59:20,399
to not hear about the other issues

4225
02:59:24,550 --> 02:59:22,240
i know i know but

4226
02:59:26,830 --> 02:59:24,560
okay but i'm tired of it i can tell you

4227
02:59:29,590 --> 02:59:26,840
that right now i am just as

4228
02:59:31,910 --> 02:59:29,600
tired everyone's tired of that but maybe

4229
02:59:34,070 --> 02:59:31,920
that makes some sense that either we're

4230
02:59:36,309 --> 02:59:34,080
getting protected or

4231
02:59:37,349 --> 02:59:36,319
they're protecting from us i don't know

4232
02:59:38,790 --> 02:59:37,359
well

4233
02:59:43,110 --> 02:59:38,800
what if

4234
02:59:45,190 --> 02:59:43,120
man et's coming they've got a virus

4235
02:59:46,230 --> 02:59:45,200
that's what the vaccines are for

4236
02:59:51,349 --> 02:59:46,240
um

4237
02:59:55,750 --> 02:59:53,429
that's what i'm saying that's what i'm

4238
02:59:57,670 --> 02:59:55,760
saying man oh man

4239
02:59:59,830 --> 02:59:57,680
that's an interesting take hey hey

4240
03:00:02,150 --> 02:59:59,840
steven uh behave out there in sierra

4241
03:00:04,870 --> 03:00:02,160
madre hey did you go to the rose parade

4242
03:00:08,150 --> 03:00:04,880
did you go to the right i loved it

4243
03:00:10,150 --> 03:00:08,160
oh no i didn't but i love the skulls i i

4244
03:00:12,790 --> 03:00:10,160
posted a couple of the skulls up there

4245
03:00:16,790 --> 03:00:12,800
oh that was you yeah i saw your scars

4246
03:00:19,750 --> 03:00:16,800
that's me yeah yeah i say

4247
03:00:22,150 --> 03:00:19,760
you got a nice little collection man

4248
03:00:24,469 --> 03:00:22,160
oh yeah i love them i love these skulls

4249
03:00:26,870 --> 03:00:24,479
man yeah hey thank you jimmy thank you

4250
03:00:28,630 --> 03:00:26,880
stephen behave and be well out there

4251
03:00:30,150 --> 03:00:28,640
okay i will

4252
03:00:31,590 --> 03:00:30,160
thank you very much we'll see you

4253
03:00:35,269 --> 03:00:31,600
tomorrow night that's a great phone call

4254
03:00:37,510 --> 03:00:35,279
right there sierra madre is uh one of my

4255
03:00:38,870 --> 03:00:37,520
favorite places in the world

4256
03:00:40,550 --> 03:00:38,880
and uh the other night when dwayne

4257
03:00:42,150 --> 03:00:40,560
morgan i've got a i've got to run i've

4258
03:00:43,670 --> 03:00:42,160
got to get to the end of the show the

4259
03:00:45,750 --> 03:00:43,680
other night when dwayne morgan my old

4260
03:00:47,429 --> 03:00:45,760
friend uh called in and we told the

4261
03:00:49,030 --> 03:00:47,439
story about

4262
03:00:51,110 --> 03:00:49,040
him telling

4263
03:00:53,910 --> 03:00:51,120
the police or if maybe we did it before

4264
03:00:55,990 --> 03:00:53,920
anyway that he was in bay malmsteen and

4265
03:00:58,790 --> 03:00:56,000
you know they wrote it down and

4266
03:01:00,710 --> 03:00:58,800
and uh and he didn't have any way that

4267
03:01:02,150 --> 03:01:00,720
was in the parking lot of the sierra

4268
03:01:04,790 --> 03:01:02,160
madre theater

4269
03:01:08,630 --> 03:01:04,800
that was right there man

4270
03:01:11,030 --> 03:01:08,640
and uh true story i love sierra madre it

4271
03:01:12,870 --> 03:01:11,040
is just a beautiful beautiful uh part of

4272
03:01:16,070 --> 03:01:12,880
the world i was just out there

4273
03:01:17,750 --> 03:01:16,080
uh not too long ago and

4274
03:01:18,710 --> 03:01:17,760
hasn't changed

4275
03:01:20,389 --> 03:01:18,720
it

4276
03:01:21,269 --> 03:01:20,399
pasadena's changed

4277
03:01:23,190 --> 03:01:21,279
uh

4278
03:01:26,070 --> 03:01:23,200
colorado boulevard is not the same place

4279
03:01:27,750 --> 03:01:26,080
and old town is certainly uh gentrified

4280
03:01:29,830 --> 03:01:27,760
it's not the same place but

4281
03:01:32,389 --> 03:01:29,840
um sierra madre

4282
03:01:34,389 --> 03:01:32,399
it looks probably the same now well

4283
03:01:37,510 --> 03:01:34,399
certainly did when i was there in in the

4284
03:01:40,950 --> 03:01:37,520
80s but probably the same in the 70s in

4285
03:01:42,469 --> 03:01:40,960
the 60s it has not changed it is just a

4286
03:01:44,309 --> 03:01:42,479
time capsule

4287
03:01:46,790 --> 03:01:44,319
beautiful part of the world and with

4288
03:01:48,469 --> 03:01:46,800
that i got to get out of here and what a

4289
03:01:49,349 --> 03:01:48,479
great show tonight i want to thank don

4290
03:01:52,070 --> 03:01:49,359
schmidt

4291
03:01:54,469 --> 03:01:52,080
perfect perfect show tonight perfect

4292
03:01:55,590 --> 03:01:54,479
conversation thank you don and i will

4293
03:01:58,070 --> 03:01:55,600
see don

4294
03:01:59,990 --> 03:01:58,080
out there in roswell july 4th weekend

4295
03:02:01,030 --> 03:02:00,000
75th anniversary it's going to be

4296
03:02:02,790 --> 03:02:01,040
amazing

4297
03:02:04,550 --> 03:02:02,800
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4298
03:02:06,070 --> 03:02:04,560
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4299
03:02:07,030 --> 03:02:06,080
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4300
03:02:09,110 --> 03:02:07,040
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4301
03:02:11,870 --> 03:02:09,120
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4302
03:02:14,070 --> 03:02:11,880
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4303
03:02:15,910 --> 03:02:14,080
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4304
03:02:17,670 --> 03:02:15,920
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4305
03:02:20,630 --> 03:02:17,680
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4306
03:02:22,870 --> 03:02:20,640
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4307
03:02:24,710 --> 03:02:22,880
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4308
03:02:26,389 --> 03:02:24,720
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4309
03:02:27,990 --> 03:02:26,399
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4310
03:02:29,429 --> 03:02:28,000
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4311
03:02:31,349 --> 03:02:29,439
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4312
03:02:32,469 --> 03:02:31,359
your host jimmy church tomorrow night

4313
03:02:34,950 --> 03:02:32,479
right here

4314
03:02:37,590 --> 03:02:34,960
chad caleb he's got a new movie out it's

4315
03:02:39,990 --> 03:02:37,600
called 74 minutes we'll be talking about

4316
03:02:42,950 --> 03:02:40,000
that tomorrow night until then

4317
03:02:48,410 --> 03:02:42,960
everybody be safe

4318
03:02:48,420 --> 03:03:08,150
[Music]

4319
03:03:21,200 --> 03:03:10,290
so